Instead of launching Vine a 6 seconds micro vlogging service. Twitter should have integrated that as a feature in their own app. That would have made so much sense. Every social media company for e.g SnapChat, Facebook etc. are closely integrating video content within the core of their app and Twitter had a huge opportunity and the managed to below it away.
Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
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Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#92Makes sense, Instagram has essentially beat them at their own game.
What game is that? "Collecting zero revenue until you're somehow bought by Facebook"?
Well, despite the fact that both companies were acquired by larger social companies...
"Instagram will surpass Google, Twitter in US mobile display ad revenues by 2017" http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Instagram-Mobile-Ad-Revenue...
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#93Makes sense, Instagram has essentially beat them at their own game.
Instagram remade vine 100x better Every time I click a vine video it takes ages to load. I can't remember a similar service with a crappier user experience The Vine app lasted less than a week on my phone, because it was pretty much unusable. Yes, please, let me play a series of videos with sound while scrolling.
the only app that has a worse UX than vine is... wait for it... periscope!
Half the time periscope videos won't even load for me over the web. No matter how long I wait.
Twitter Co.'s infrastructure seems to have only ever gotten marginally better since the fail whale days!
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter (the service, not the company's) secret sauce is: You can have a public platform, using an identity you choose for yourself, to broadcast snippets of information. Where do you evolve this? Blogger, Blogspot, Livejournal, Tumblr, Medium, they're all in this same space, except they focus on traditional, long-form content. I don't see Twitter as a social network (although many do, that's okay). I see it as a bro…
>> I don't see Twitter as a social network (although many do, that's okay). I see it as a broadcast medium, a soapbox, a blogging platform. A few years back Peter Kafka wrote an article [1] about how joe/joan-shmoe twitter user will probably never have their tweets read by anybody at all. It was astonishingly small number of folks who broke 500 followers (writing 3/4 years ago) ex. “The median Twitter account has a s…
This is such an important point, lost in the punditry.
Twitter gets a lot of love from journalists and people with a profile, who write the articles about twitter and control public perception. They have an interest in maintaining a personal brand and have enough visibility that Twitter works for them.
If you listened to those people, Twitter's biggest problem would be trolls writing mean (and often abusive) tweets about them.
Most twitterers would be lucky to be threatened with the rape and murder of their families, frankly.
Which is why Twitter is dying-- there are so, so, so many news curation and aggregation sources. Twitter isn't even all that good, frankly. Reddit does the job way better. (Still a lot of folks that want to fuck my mom though.)
As a social network, it's crap, has been crap and likely will remain crap. The time-based feed tends towards livelock from professional content producers. Their curation mostly suggests people I can follow who would generally prefer I do not engage with them beyond promotion of their brands and gentle applause.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#95I'm not surprised. Using livestream apps (or in Vine's case short videos) I've noticed that broadcasters are incredibly addicted for a month or so, and then they disappear forever.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I knew this was going to be challenged, and you're not wrong. But Twitter still feels closest to the original incarnation of 'here be a (roughly) reverse-chronological list of text-message length posts'. They had the timeline, the "friend feed" first, and most enhancements affected only the payload of their messages. Moments was a big innovation, and it's presented as a separate offering on their website. Whereas Fac…
> (roughly) reverse-chronological list of text-message length posts'. Twitter went algorithmic timeline not too long ago, sadly. Fortunately, it can still be turned off - but is on by default.
> it can still be turned off
Where? I unchecked every setting that I found, but I still get that "While you were away" and "#something is currently trending" bullshit.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#97How on earth does Vine need all those people with inflated job titles to deliver tiny videos over the internet?
This question gets asked pretty much every time there is an article about the size of tech companies. If you think about what is required for running something at the scale of Vine, 50 people makes a lot of sense, and if anything that seems somewhat lean.
Wasn't Reddit run by just a few just fine?
Or am I imagining things.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider that two major newsworthy events in the US in the past week (Philando Castillo killing and Dallas attack) were live-streamed on Facebook rather than Periscope. Facebook already has a huge advantage with 10x the active users of Twitter, AND they integrated live video directly into the app that many of those users already have, rather than a separate app most of them don't. "App constellations" may be a better…
> AND they integrated live video directly into the app that many of those users already have, rather than a separate app most of them don't. > "App constellations" may be a better user experience... if you bother to download the whole constellation... but I think a similar principle to "the best camera is one you have with you" applies. I agree. Why does Facebook insist on Messages being a separate app then? They sho…
One reason, I imagine, Facebook made this choice as a company is to increase the amount of real estate their apps have on the app store and 'top 10 most popular apps' lists, similar to how companies strive for top listings and more real estate on search engine results pages.
Between Facebook, Instagram, and Messenger, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook's apps occupy 30% of most top-10 lists.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> I don't see Twitter as a social network (although many do, that's okay). I see it as a broadcast medium, a soapbox, a blogging platform. A few years back Peter Kafka wrote an article [1] about how joe/joan-shmoe twitter user will probably never have their tweets read by anybody at all. It was astonishingly small number of folks who broke 500 followers (writing 3/4 years ago) ex. “The median Twitter account has a s…
This is such an important point, lost in the punditry. Twitter gets a lot of love from journalists and people with a profile, who write the articles about twitter and control public perception. They have an interest in maintaining a personal brand and have enough visibility that Twitter works for them. If you listened to those people, Twitter's biggest problem would be trolls writing mean (and often abusive) tweets a…
Reddit only appeals to a specific demographic though. Twitter seems to have broader appeal somehow. I think because Twitter conversation is less controlled by a majority.
Re: Vine isn’t growing and most of its top executives have left
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider that two major newsworthy events in the US in the past week (Philando Castillo killing and Dallas attack) were live-streamed on Facebook rather than Periscope. Facebook already has a huge advantage with 10x the active users of Twitter, AND they integrated live video directly into the app that many of those users already have, rather than a separate app most of them don't. "App constellations" may be a better…
> AND they integrated live video directly into the app that many of those users already have, rather than a separate app most of them don't. > "App constellations" may be a better user experience... if you bother to download the whole constellation... but I think a similar principle to "the best camera is one you have with you" applies. I agree. Why does Facebook insist on Messages being a separate app then? They sho…
Live video in Facebook isn't separate: it is a different form of news item that is integrated into everything else. Messages is totally unrelated to everything else... it was a tab at the bottom that had no integration into the rest of the app, but because of that left limited ways to expand the experience of messaging itself (as the tab bar was already being used). It made absolutely no sense to have those things be crammed into the same UI.