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Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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Eh, Eagle in this day in age? If you're going cheap, I'd stick with KiCAD. It's unintuitive, like GIMP vs Photoshop, but gets the job done with no restrictions on functionality. I've also heard decent things about CircuitMaker, but never used it. If you have any academic links at all though, or don't mind piracy, I'd grab a student edition of Altium Designer. Solidworks too if you can get it for mechanical modeling.…

The team at CERN has made big improvements to KiCad, including the push and shove router: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI Another good reason to think about KiCad is if you care about open formats (vs. Altium for example.) CERN's own statement [1]: "We think that KiCad can do to PCB design what the gcc compiler did to software: ensure there are no artificial barriers to sharing so that design and developm…

Ironically, CERN has one of the best open source part libraries for Altium.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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Holy shit, that JLink is expensive. What does it get me more than the JTAG FTDI OpenOCD GDB setup that I have currently, who's boards cost my ~$100 in super low volume?

JLink is updated very quickly and works with every arm platform and IDE imaginable.

Yes, this exactly. It is way ahead of OpenOCD if you are working with hardware released in the last 12-18 months.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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Eh, Eagle in this day in age? If you're going cheap, I'd stick with KiCAD. It's unintuitive, like GIMP vs Photoshop, but gets the job done with no restrictions on functionality. I've also heard decent things about CircuitMaker, but never used it. If you have any academic links at all though, or don't mind piracy, I'd grab a student edition of Altium Designer. Solidworks too if you can get it for mechanical modeling.…

I'm very much against software piracy but if you're starting out in electrical engineering, you are doing an absolute disservice by not using a pirated version of Altium. Not only is it basically the industry standard (Cadence, Orcad, etc are mostly propped up by legacy clients, especially in aerospace and defence) but its interface and features are leaps and bounds beyond anything else. Pretty much all ECAD software…

Altium also recently developed a free (!) entry-level version, CircuitMaker (http://circuitmaker.com/).

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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That and because the vast majority of products can use a standard, off the shelf enclosure. Problem is that many of the new product designers don't come from a hardware background and either aren't aware of the huge scope of what you can buy (and get modified cheaply) off the shelf, or they think that their product must have a fully custom enclosure. One of the benefits of having a traditional engineering education a…

Is there some way to find "of the shelf" enclosures online?

Google "electronics enclosures". Or look on the distributor's sites (Mouser, Digi-Key, Element 14, etc.) where you buy other electronics parts.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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That and because the vast majority of products can use a standard, off the shelf enclosure. Problem is that many of the new product designers don't come from a hardware background and either aren't aware of the huge scope of what you can buy (and get modified cheaply) off the shelf, or they think that their product must have a fully custom enclosure. One of the benefits of having a traditional engineering education a…

Is there some way to find "of the shelf" enclosures online?

Here's the UK version of Farnell, who are "quite big" in component distribution.

http://uk.farnell.com/enclosures-racks-cabinets

There are several thousand off the shelf boxes here.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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JLink is updated very quickly and works with every arm platform and IDE imaginable.

Yes, this exactly. It is way ahead of OpenOCD if you are working with hardware released in the last 12-18 months.

I mean, GCC and OpenOCD had CortexM4 support before anybody else as far as I could tell. Keil and IAR wouldn't even give us a release date at the time.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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That and because the vast majority of products can use a standard, off the shelf enclosure. Problem is that many of the new product designers don't come from a hardware background and either aren't aware of the huge scope of what you can buy (and get modified cheaply) off the shelf, or they think that their product must have a fully custom enclosure. One of the benefits of having a traditional engineering education a…

Is there some way to find "of the shelf" enclosures online?

Besides the other suggestions, you can go to the source. Three of my favorite electronic enclosure manufacturers are Hammond, Bud and Polycase. Polycase in particular has pretty low setup and per-unit costs for modifying enclosures.

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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Eh, Eagle in this day in age? If you're going cheap, I'd stick with KiCAD. It's unintuitive, like GIMP vs Photoshop, but gets the job done with no restrictions on functionality. I've also heard decent things about CircuitMaker, but never used it. If you have any academic links at all though, or don't mind piracy, I'd grab a student edition of Altium Designer. Solidworks too if you can get it for mechanical modeling.…

What are some of the reputable "small board-houses"? Any recommendations?

Re: Intro to modern hardware prototyping

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Eh, Eagle in this day in age? If you're going cheap, I'd stick with KiCAD. It's unintuitive, like GIMP vs Photoshop, but gets the job done with no restrictions on functionality. I've also heard decent things about CircuitMaker, but never used it. If you have any academic links at all though, or don't mind piracy, I'd grab a student edition of Altium Designer. Solidworks too if you can get it for mechanical modeling.…

What are some of the reputable "small board-houses"? Any recommendations?

I always had good results with Advanced Circuits out in Colorado, but this is over a decade ago now.
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