Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
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Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#2From the Article:
> The driver in Montana was headed from Seattle to Yellowstone National Park when he crashed on a two-lane highway near Cardwell. ..."It's a winding road going through a canyon, with no shoulder"
From the Tesla Owners Manual:
> Traffic-Aware Cruise Control is primarily intended for driving on dry, straight roads, such as highways and freeways.
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> Autosteer is particularly unlikely to operate as intended in the following situations:
• When driving on hills.
• The road has sharp curves or is excessively rough.
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#3I hate to say it, but there are going to be some deaths on the road to full autonomous cars. (no pun intended)
The problem I see is, Tesla is the only one actively testing autonomous driving.
The fact that over 100 million miles driven, and we're finally starting to see accidents, is a good sign.
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#4If the auto pilot calls for the driver to be on alert and place their hands on the wheel and the driver doesn't, surely the auto pilot should stop the car
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#5> "As road conditions became increasingly uncertain, the vehicle again alerted the driver to put his hands on the wheel," said Tesla. "He did not do so and shortly thereafter the vehicle collided with a post on the edge of the roadway."
If the autopilot's confidence was dropping that rapidly, why did it not slow the vehicle? If it hits zero confidence it should halt completely until the driver restarts the car in manual mode, and possibly disable itself until checked out.
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#6I really think Tesla needs to make autopilot's "hands-on" requirement less lenient, the driver had their hands off the wheel for a full two minutes and the car didn't bark at him? I think (maybe I'm wrong and the other non-fatal one did) this is the first incident where autopilot was involved with an inattentive driver, and probably the one that is going to put the screws to Tesla, unfortunately.
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#7Nobody reads manuals and follows instructions . I feel Tesla is going to learn this lesson that hard way.
From the article:
"We specifically advise against its use at high speeds on undivided roads," it said. Tesla states clearly in its owner's manual that drivers should stay alert and keep their hands on the wheel to avoid accidents when the Autopilot feature is engaged.
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#8From the Article: > The driver in Montana was headed from Seattle to Yellowstone National Park when he crashed on a two-lane highway near Cardwell. ..."It's a winding road going through a canyon, with no shoulder" From the Tesla Owners Manual: > Traffic-Aware Cruise Control is primarily intended for driving on dry, straight roads, such as highways and freeways. ... > Autosteer is particularly unlikely to operate as i…
Can autopilot not tell a straight road from a curvy road? If it can, why does it apply throttle when it detects that it is driving in a type of road it cannot handle?
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#9We'll just have to see how liability laws and juries treat these technologies. We may well see a situation where thousands of lives could be saved from automation, but any accident leads to millions in lawsuits and the technology is killed. Hopefully this isn't the outcome.
Airbags occasionally kill or injure people also despite on balance saving lives. So there is precedent for this sort of math, but this is a very different kind of technology and not an ordinary engineering tradeoff.
Re: Tesla confirms “Autopilot” crash in Montana
#10> "As road conditions became increasingly uncertain, the vehicle again alerted the driver to put his hands on the wheel," said Tesla. "He did not do so and shortly thereafter the vehicle collided with a post on the edge of the roadway." If the autopilot's confidence was dropping that rapidly, why did it not slow the vehicle? If it hits zero confidence it should halt completely until the driver restarts the car in man…
That could cause an accident just as easily.