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The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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No, this is the best Lasagna Cat, complete with FF6 mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yELOiYgR2aI

What ever happened to the guy who made those? These were so well done. Got me into the GI Joe parodies too. I honestly haven't run into anything on YouTube this good in over 5 years.

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a decent 5 years of strips in the run of 50 years, scattered but mostly front-loaded, though you also have to skip the first couple. But even the decent strips are low-key and subtle, and you may have needed to be able to connect to some of the characters more than you may have been able too. (I wasn't "Charlie Brown" as a kid per se, but I connected more than others might have.) I know this because I read th…

I liked Calvin and Hobbes a lot, but it all depends on one's tastes; I make no claim that any of them are objectively 'good' or 'bad'. I do think C&H seems to have a lot more effort and thought behind it than Garfield or many of the Peanuts strips.

I don't feel like I'm going too far out of my way to suggest that a lot of newspaper syndicated strips are objectively bad, because the artists complain about the same issues themselves. They've been boxed in to such a small literal physical area that it becomes hard to do anything "artistic".

A few of them still manage to do some good work, but great work is almost physically impossible now.

And if what you want is merely good work, there's probably a dozen "good" webcomics now for every "good" syndicated comic out there. In fact I think I stumble on a "good" webcomic every three months or so, only to notice that it has 5+ years of archives available. (I do this on purpose; in many cases, the webcomic that is "good" when I find it really wasn't particularly good in the first couple of years.)

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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No, this is the best Lasagna Cat, complete with FF6 mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yELOiYgR2aI

What ever happened to the guy who made those? These were so well done. Got me into the GI Joe parodies too. I honestly haven't run into anything on YouTube this good in over 5 years.

They were made by FatalFarm which has done a lot of really great stuff in the last few years, including some absolutely brilliant work for Key & Peele.

Most of their work is online: http://fatalfarm.com/

They have a series of "alternate TV intros" you need to watch right now:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL92CAF6B8AE655C2C

The "Ducktales" one is the best. Probably NSFW.

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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I read Garfield when I was a kid. I have some books. It's strange but there were characters, a roommate, a dog (odie),a cute kitten that was resented, trips to a farm. Those things were written out, and it became sameness all the time. I'm surprised it's still being written. I love the remixes. Garfield minus Garfield is fascinating..

It's still being written because Jim Davis's chief motivation in starting Garfield was to do something about the struggling economy in his home town of Muncie, Indiana. The strip's mediocrity is a secure source of income for two dozen people in a struggling town, and thus also a source of income for everyone who pumps their gas, buses their diner tables et cetera.

> and thus also a source of income for everyone who pumps their gas, buses their diner tables et cetera.

I'm not sure, and I have other things to think about right now, but this smells of a broken-window fallacy.

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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Even if Garfield Minus Garfield is a little weird, I think it's fascinating how the absence of the cat creats such a obscure melancholia. Some of the stripes even become philosophical.

Or conversely shows how easy it is to make non-sense that can be interpreted as deep or meaningful. Makes me think of India's guru culture or the US's new age stuff. Its like our minds are hardwired to trip a fuse when we see something on the level of zen koan or similarly weird or meaningless. Another example is 'cut up books' where you randomly paste together strips of sentences from other books or newspapers and eventually get something interesting.

Maybe its a side-effect of being a novelty seeking species. Who knows.

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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I read Garfield when I was a kid. I have some books. It's strange but there were characters, a roommate, a dog (odie),a cute kitten that was resented, trips to a farm. Those things were written out, and it became sameness all the time. I'm surprised it's still being written. I love the remixes. Garfield minus Garfield is fascinating..

It's still being written because Jim Davis's chief motivation in starting Garfield was to do something about the struggling economy in his home town of Muncie, Indiana. The strip's mediocrity is a secure source of income for two dozen people in a struggling town, and thus also a source of income for everyone who pumps their gas, buses their diner tables et cetera.

Its a town of 100,000+ people with a 6% unemployment rate and a $40,000 gdp per capita. While certainly those extra jobs are nice and that economy is nothing to brag about, I doubt they're making some economy changing effect you seem to be suggesting they are.

For comparison, blacks on Chicago's south side have a 25% unemployment rate and a median income sometimes far below average. A south side neighborhood called Armour Square has a $10,000 median household income. That's $28 a day in income.

Re: The World of Subversive Garfield Spinoffs

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Even if Garfield Minus Garfield is a little weird, I think it's fascinating how the absence of the cat creats such a obscure melancholia. Some of the stripes even become philosophical.

Or conversely shows how easy it is to make non-sense that can be interpreted as deep or meaningful. Makes me think of India's guru culture or the US's new age stuff. Its like our minds are hardwired to trip a fuse when we see something on the level of zen koan or similarly weird or meaningless. Another example is 'cut up books' where you randomly paste together strips of sentences from other books or newspapers and e…

I think it's more than that. The Minuses have a definite air that the others, more randomized, don't. I think it's a little Andy Kaufman like - much humor is ultimately malicious, and when you strip out the punchlines, you're left just with the setup in which Jon's loserdom can't be ignored.
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