Hope someone writes a similar letter about nootropics. There's little evidence about their long term effects.
Neuroscientists' Open Letter To DIY Brain Hackers
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#12""Some people were administering it to their kids," he says. " WTF , fair enough if you want to risk it on yourself but not your children with still developing brains.
Insanity of proponents of pseudoscience has no boundaries.
Too early to say if it pseudoscience. They don't know the effects yet. It is just risky tinkering.
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#13Hope someone writes a similar letter about nootropics. There's little evidence about their long term effects.
I think centrophenoxine and racetams are fairly well tolerated. I've cycled them on and off for a few years with only positive outcomes. They've been studied for decades. It's probably worse to take something like tylenol pm every night, which is FDA approved, OTC etc. http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-dr...
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#14So the TLDR is its basically like exercise where you can quite easily hurt yourself if you have no idea what you're doing, and you probably do not especially if you're a broscience devotee, and most people make pretty dumb decisions about appropriate levels of repetition, effort, and pain. Another way of putting it is people with poor judgment can now at some effort and money, destroy their brains, not just their kne…
With exercise there are at least people who do know what they're doing you can ask. In this case there isn't anybody who really knows what they're doing, at least not to the point that they can get any benefits out of it.
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#15""Some people were administering it to their kids," he says. " WTF , fair enough if you want to risk it on yourself but not your children with still developing brains.
The whole thing just reminds me about the radium water craze years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor https://67.media.tumblr.com/1899ba50f59df9c88dace35c13c2c1a7...
I watched a documentary on Netflix a while back that talked about the Radium health craze and carelessness. I think it was about the rise of investigative chemistry with regard to poisonings, etc.
The radium portion was horrifying to think about.
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#17Hope someone writes a similar letter about nootropics. There's little evidence about their long term effects.
I think centrophenoxine and racetams are fairly well tolerated. I've cycled them on and off for a few years with only positive outcomes. They've been studied for decades. It's probably worse to take something like tylenol pm every night, which is FDA approved, OTC etc. http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/common-anticholinergic-dr...
But where's the link to centrophenoxine and racetams? Your link only talks about anticholinergic drugs. I have seen such results about benzodiazepine http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/benzodiazepine-use-may-ra...
When you are chemically toying with your brain, it is good to know if there are any adverse long terms effects. Risk vs. reward. Surely some non chemical ways of modifying the your brain can also have adverse effects: like eroding concentration due to constant multitasking.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's one of the reasons I've stayed away from 'beta blocker' medications even though they're designed to tone down stage fright to a bare minimum. There are, from what I've read, potential side effects that can be rather severe. As in, some real unwelcome motor/cognition changes. That's enough cautionary literature to keep me away. Strangely enough though, I'm not anti-supplement (vitamins, PH stacks, etc) in the l…
Can you point to any papers? I'm curious. A friend (actually not me) was just asking about them. He gets anxiety, and wanted to have them on hand in case of a severe attack. But he's wary of medications generally and is on the fence about taking them.
Your friend should consult someone who spends a lot of time studying these sorts of things. I take a beta blocker, by prescription, for anxiety, and it does work for me. But I'd never recommend anyone else try it. I'd recommend they ask their doctor about it specifically.
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#19Huh. I thought it's something about DIY EEG devices or something like that and is quite surprised with what some people do with their heads...
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#20TDCS seems like using a sledgehammer to tune a piano.
Nicely put. I'd venture that a lot of the "plug in and go" crowd might be better served with some vigorous exercise rather than electrical stimulation. At least one of the two has viable, peer reviewed studies and results to consider.
But hey, Darwin Awards ain't going to write themselves.