This is the face of the ISIS sex slave market – New York Post
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#2This is not right
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#3Sorry to hear that.
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#4As far as I can tell the relevance to HN is that people who do less than wholesome things use secure communication tools to organise them.
This is the necessary cost of not living in a police state (or police world). I hate people trafficking but freedom of association and privacy are too valuable to concede. I'm comfortable with that balance.
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#5Is there something we can do about this?
Can we find out what apps they're using and make life tough for them?
Can we somehow pinpoint their phones (without getting innocents) and DoS them off the net?
I'm just riffing here, I don't think any of this is viable - but I feel sadness for these people and want to help
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#6As far as I can tell the relevance to HN is that people who do less than wholesome things use secure communication tools to organise them. This is the necessary cost of not living in a police state (or police world). I hate people trafficking but freedom of association and privacy are too valuable to concede. I'm comfortable with that balance.
I get what you're saying and agree with you but your use of the word "comfortable" is jarring, don't you think?
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#7As far as I can tell the relevance to HN is that people who do less than wholesome things use secure communication tools to organise them. This is the necessary cost of not living in a police state (or police world). I hate people trafficking but freedom of association and privacy are too valuable to concede. I'm comfortable with that balance.
I'm not sure secure communications are terribly relevant here. ISIS would be doing much the same stuff if they were insecure. Indeed they post much of the stuff on twitter and youtube given the chance.
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#8Is there something we can do about this? Can we find out what apps they're using and make life tough for them? Can we somehow pinpoint their phones (without getting innocents) and DoS them off the net? I'm just riffing here, I don't think any of this is viable - but I feel sadness for these people and want to help
Pinpointing the phones and launching missiles at them might work better than DoS. I guess from the practical point of view, information on who's doing what helps. At least Turkey seems to have backed off supporting them which helps and may have been influenced by exposure on the internet eg http://www.mintpressnews.com/211624-2/211624/
Also feel free to donate to the Kurds who are the ones on the ground fighting this stuff. I did a not very good website for a charity helping the refugees there http://kurdistanrefugeeaid.strikingly.com/
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#10We need a space alien BDFL with the power to cause existence failure to any human at any time.
"Benevolent" being the critical part of that.