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Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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Setting aside the why and wherefore; how would they block NoScript?

Imagine a world where all content is loaded over XHRs and the DOM serves only to load Javascript. This is becoming an increasingly prevalent pattern. I really miss the document-oriented web of the late 90's / early 00's.

Honest question: Why?

I don't understand why people inherently dislike Javascript (aside from, y'know, creepy ad networks).

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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I've recently returned from the British Grand Prix and resented the fact that my smartphone doesn't have a radio feature. Had to invest £10 in a cheap plastic thing they sold at the circuit, while it did the job, I thought smartphones were supposed to be an end to having to carry around single function devices, in favour of the all-in-one solution.

How about that Verstappen, eh? What was the general feeling in the crowd while they puttered along behind the Safety Car for so long? I want to attend one of the races in Europe next season and I've whittled my options down to Silverstone and Spa. How highly would you recommend the British GP? Also, which smartphone do you have?

Yeah Verstappen was great, safety car start was disappointing but once the race started it was a good atmosphere, especially towards the end when Hamilton was driving his win home.

This was my first GP, so couldn't say really but I found everything at Silverstone great.

Spa would be a great race to go to as well, but I don't know what they are like for facilities.

I have a Nexus 5 from 2014, it does the job, just a shame about the radio really.

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Which box did you buy? I wish I could find one that does Internet streams and HD Radio that didn't cost a kidney...

The Grace Digital one. It works, although Apple has ruined me and the user interface on the box is worse than that on a microwave. There's a long list of complaints about it, but there isn't much alternative. The category is wide open for someone to make one where, say, the remote actually works more than some of the time. :-( I don't know why this is such a hard problem.

Which microwave? I have a hard time imagining ways it could be improved over what I have. Put food in, twist a knob to set time, microwave starts.

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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To answer the question in the headline: Because it is better to have no function, than a crappy function. It's another useless app, another menu item to browse through and for the company, another source of complaints and support cases.

Firstly, why is the choice between no function or a crappy function? Why would every FM radio app necessarily be crappy? Secondly, why would it be useless when millions of people still listen to FM radio? In the UK for example, according to RAJAR (the UK radio body) 56% of radio listeners use FM compared to DAB or internet, which is around 26 million people. Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all i…

> Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all if I can't use it?

It doesn't. One of the support chips happens to have an FM transceiver along with the ones the phone uses, but it would also need an antenna and an amplifier to be able to receive FM radio. And a bigger battery and a bigger case (or less battery life). And more software. And more product QA and support.

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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To answer the question in the headline: Because it is better to have no function, than a crappy function. It's another useless app, another menu item to browse through and for the company, another source of complaints and support cases.

I don't think the companies making smartphones care that much about that one extra menu item. Considering that phones are already preloaded with bunch of crap you never need, and widgets that nag at you...

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This may be a failing of mine or a regional thing, but what does this comment mean? I read it literally as saying that Apple has done what carriers want and has made iMessage to suit carriers. I suspect that this is the opposite of what is intended though, as iMessage disempowers carriers imho. How does culturestate's comment work?

"Could give a damn" and "couldn't give a damn" can be used as synonyms in American slang. Or it might just be the South.

Thanks, now this says something that squares with what I would expect it to mean. Strange how dropping that very key word leaves the same meaning. Still, English has many strange quirks.

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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Firstly, why is the choice between no function or a crappy function? Why would every FM radio app necessarily be crappy? Secondly, why would it be useless when millions of people still listen to FM radio? In the UK for example, according to RAJAR (the UK radio body) 56% of radio listeners use FM compared to DAB or internet, which is around 26 million people. Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all i…

> Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all if I can't use it? It doesn't. One of the support chips happens to have an FM transceiver along with the ones the phone uses, but it would also need an antenna and an amplifier to be able to receive FM radio. And a bigger battery and a bigger case (or less battery life). And more software. And more product QA and support.

I just looked into the chip, and can see now that you're right. I agree that Apple probably hasn't enabled it because the amplifier and antenna are unfeasible.

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That is quite strange ... Here in India, most people own an android. And Radio App is pre-installed in almost all those phones. You just have to plug-in your earphones to start using it. I expected that behavior to be universal.

'in India' is the key here. Market segmentation at its worst.

Sorry but I don't really get it ... what harm would enabling radio on a phone would do?

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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If you happen to be using Firefox, setting the config variable: media.autoplay.enabled To false, disables auto play media everywhere.

In chrome I blocked plugins by default under Settings>Show Advanced Settings>(Privacy section)Content Settings>Plugins Section

I do that too, but it still autoplayed. I think it's an HTML5 video.

Re: Your Phone Has an FM Chip. So Why Can’t You Listen to the Radio?

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To answer the question in the headline: Because it is better to have no function, than a crappy function. It's another useless app, another menu item to browse through and for the company, another source of complaints and support cases.

Firstly, why is the choice between no function or a crappy function? Why would every FM radio app necessarily be crappy? Secondly, why would it be useless when millions of people still listen to FM radio? In the UK for example, according to RAJAR (the UK radio body) 56% of radio listeners use FM compared to DAB or internet, which is around 26 million people. Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all i…

> Firstly, why is the choice between no function or a crappy function? Why would every FM radio app necessarily be crappy?

FM antenna has to be quite big no? My old Cowon media player needed to have the headphones plugged in in order to use the FM function. That would mean that people with Bluetooth headphones (an ever increasing number) are out of luck.

> Thirdly, why does the hardware have an FM receiver at all if I can't use it?

Because the receiver is part of a standard package shipped by Qualcomm and it is probably cheaper to leave it in. What the device does not have is an antenna and an amplifier for the signal (as mentioned in other comments)

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