I find it very amusing when people name other brands/apps etc on their homepage especially those where you don't have any business connection. Case in point here is naming Pocket App on the homepage prominently. It gives on impression that Pocket is some big successful app but in reality has merely 22M users (active users must be lot lower). I hope I am right to assume that MS has nothing to do with Pocket app.
It's really a sign of the times that you can have 22 million customers and still not be viewed as big and successful.
Not really relevant to this particular conversation. C# was commercially released in July 2000. The ECMA standardization committee was founded in September of the same year. Writing began in January 2003, and the standard officially adopted in June 2006. This is all described in the standard: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST... There's also a standard for CLI (Common Language Infrastructur…
I didn't say C# was released after this time, I said Microsoft is a different beast now. They've made a significant swing towards open source and embracing the OSS community. Back in 2005 they still very much thought they ruled the world and could get away with anything.
Your opinion on 2005 Microsoft is great and all, but I still don't see its application to this exact conversation. From 2006 and on, anyone could implement a C# compiler and runtime from the ECMA standard with absolutely no barriers from Microsoft. This was the result of a process that started in 2000, a few months after the official release of the language.
If This Then That is a pretty cool name. Zapier on the other hand...
I get where it comes form, and it makes sense, but it's long and will inevitably be shorterned to IFTTT which is just awkward. An acronym/initialism is better if it can be pronounced like a word. CAP is one of them, and thus I feel it's better than IFTTT even though IFTTT's full name makes more sense and is 'good'.
In terms of searchability, "IFTTT" and "Zapier" beat "CAP" by a mile because the latter is a common word. So I can search for recipes with "IFTTT" or "Zapier" but in this case I have to type the full expansion "conditional action programmer."
Whether or not a name like IFTTT is awkward, and therefore bad in some sense, is subjective. Personally I happen to like the awkwardness.
I didn't say C# was released after this time, I said Microsoft is a different beast now. They've made a significant swing towards open source and embracing the OSS community. Back in 2005 they still very much thought they ruled the world and could get away with anything.
Your opinion on 2005 Microsoft is great and all, but I still don't see its application to this exact conversation. From 2006 and on, anyone could implement a C# compiler and runtime from the ECMA standard with absolutely no barriers from Microsoft. This was the result of a process that started in 2000, a few months after the official release of the language.
I think it is relevant. The Microsoft of that time (and it is debatable how much that changed) is not one company on which you'd rely on for a cooperation in such a project. There is no telling which tricks MS might have used to make money out of it – the same way Oracle's API copyright bullshit was a trick to make money. Don't forget that Microsoft uses patents to extort a share of many android phones sold, see http://uk.businessinsider.com/microsoft-android-patent-licen.... I thought that had stopped by now, but that article is from april…
Your opinion on 2005 Microsoft is great and all, but I still don't see its application to this exact conversation. From 2006 and on, anyone could implement a C# compiler and runtime from the ECMA standard with absolutely no barriers from Microsoft. This was the result of a process that started in 2000, a few months after the official release of the language.
I think it is relevant. The Microsoft of that time (and it is debatable how much that changed) is not one company on which you'd rely on for a cooperation in such a project. There is no telling which tricks MS might have used to make money out of it – the same way Oracle's API copyright bullshit was a trick to make money. Don't forget that Microsoft uses patents to extort a share of many android phones sold, see http…
> Microsoft uses patents
So does Google, so does Apple and so does Samsung. If you don't protect your rights they will be taken away. The mobile market is in a state of mutually assured destruction. The fault lies with our broken patent system and all the players in that market: not Microsoft alone.
"What can CAP do for you? First let's agree….. worst name ever. Now that we're past that, here's our story, and an ask." MS, you're competing with a product called "IFTTT". Don't think so lowly of yourself!
"What can CAP do for you? First let's agree….. worst name ever. Now that we're past that, here's our story, and an ask." MS, you're competing with a product called "IFTTT". Don't think so lowly of yourself!
What's "an ask"?
It might sound weird to you, but it's correct.
Noun
ask (plural asks)
1. An act or instance of asking.
2. Something asked or asked for; a request.
It might sound weird to you, but it's correct. Noun ask (plural asks) 1. An act or instance of asking. 2. Something asked or asked for; a request. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ask
It might sound weird to you, but it's correct. Noun ask (plural asks) 1. An act or instance of asking. 2. Something asked or asked for; a request. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ask