Tell HN: New features and a moderator • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by lkbm » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 4:04 AM UTC

robmass94 wrote: post #371

Does anyone still use Greasemonkey? I created a small little script[1] a while back. It's not nearly as sophisticated as the HN Enhancement Suite plugin, but it adds some nice features. It previously added comment collapsing, but I disabled it since it's now a permanent feature. [1] https://bitbucket.org/robmass94/hacker-news-enhancements/src

Yeah, I use Tampermonkey on Chrome, which is essentially the same thing--not sure how big the community is, but it's not no-one. (For a long time, you could just use Greasemonkey scripts natively as extensions on Chrome, but they nixed that when they decided all extensions need to be on the Play Store, iirc.)

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by krapp » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 4:12 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #403

aleem wrote: post #159

Some UI issues and recommendations. 1. The up/down arrows after a vote leave behind a clickable void. That means you can still click that void after you have voted. If you changed the visibility on .votelinks instead of the buttons this would get fixed. Though even better UX would be to have togglable up/down buttons ala stackoverflow and others. 2. Why not provide the favourite link directly on the comment instead o…

#1 should be fixed now. Thanks! Re #2: yes, clutter (icons don't solve the clutter problem, and HN's design is emphatically textual), plus there should be a bit of a speed bump before favoriting much as there is before flagging.

> clutter (icons don't solve the clutter problem, and HN's design is emphatically textual)

Even if you don't want to add more icons, you could still improve the visual elements you have (the vote arrows.) Links with title tags around Unicode glyphs would arguably be more textual than empty divs with gif arrow backgrounds and no accessible text fallbacks.

I still think they should work something like this: https://jsfiddle.net/84q0zecv/10/ even without the colors I think it communicates the states well, and is visually not that different from what the site already has.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by mistermann » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 4:50 AM UTC

IanCal wrote: post #83

logicallee wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...which is now not a problem.

It's not as much of a problem, but if people are regularly trying and failing to perform the action they want it's a UI wart.

Accidental upvote is a possible wart, collapse on the right is a guaranteed wart.

When in doubt, stick with already established standards.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by fazzone » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 5:43 AM UTC

aleem wrote: post #159

Some UI issues and recommendations. 1. The up/down arrows after a vote leave behind a clickable void. That means you can still click that void after you have voted. If you changed the visibility on .votelinks instead of the buttons this would get fixed. Though even better UX would be to have togglable up/down buttons ala stackoverflow and others. 2. Why not provide the favourite link directly on the comment instead o…

Re: #3, I think when Reddit first implemented comment tree collapsing they also put the button on the right, but I saw a thread where someone pointed out that since the length of usernames is variable, putting the button on the left makes it impossible to mass collapse/uncollapse several comments by only moving the mouse vertically. After that they moved the collapse icon to the left, which I think is a much better UX.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by avree » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 6:00 AM UTC

jchendy wrote: post #216

theswaagar wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

new user so pardon my ignorance but I dont have a downvote button. Do I need to enable it somewhere?

You need a certain amount of karma to downvote. I think it's 500, but I'm not sure because I don't have that much yet. :) Edit: it's confirmed at 501: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12074198

And down vote arrows do not appear on aging posts.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by winteriscoming » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 6:31 AM UTC

Thank you for adding these new features, like them!

A couple of things:

1. I upvoted this submission, but I don't see any unvote link anywhere (I even refreshed the page and am currently logged in). Am on Firefox 35.0.1 (if it matters).

2. Would have liked the favorites to be private and not accessible to other users (just like comments/submissions that I upvoted), but all the same, I am happy that we now have support for favorites. Just curious - was there some specific reason why you decided to go with making favorites publicly accessible to other users?

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by mrmondo » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 6:32 AM UTC

Thank you for your work and implementation on this :)

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by insin » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 6:37 AM UTC

trjordan wrote: post #39

Suggestion: Can you move the collapse button to the left of the username? One way I tend to use nested comment threads is reading all top comments, collapsing as I go. Great stuff, overall -- thanks!

Making it a slightly bigger target with a dash would also be useful: [–] instead of [-]

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by insin » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 7:30 AM UTC

etcet wrote: post #191

pgrote wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can confirm. Hopefully, the extension will be updated soon.

I'll work on it once I get home tonight. I must be the only one who hates to hear of new HN features :)

You're not alone :)

Luckily, this didn't break my userscript, so I just updated it to hide the new built-in toggle.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by arviewer » Tue, Jul 12, 2016, 7:30 AM UTC

hacker42 wrote: post #355

aleem wrote: post #159

Some UI issues and recommendations. 1. The up/down arrows after a vote leave behind a clickable void. That means you can still click that void after you have voted. If you changed the visibility on .votelinks instead of the buttons this would get fixed. Though even better UX would be to have togglable up/down buttons ala stackoverflow and others. 2. Why not provide the favourite link directly on the comment instead o…

It would also be handy to have some visual guides for the indentation levels of nested comments as on Reddit. I've hacked my own indentation marks using a CSS injection for now, but this is clearly still not optimal: @-moz-document url-prefix(https://news.ycombinator.com/) { td { vertical-align: top } td > img { background: repeating-linear-gradient(to right, rgba(0,0,0,0), rgba(0,0,0,0) 38px, rgba(0,0,0,0.3) 38px, r…

Proper nesting layout will only work if they use proper nesting. Given the limitations - great job! I only use the first two lines as the png does not load.