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Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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Not enough to worry about, in the context of the total number of cars on the road.

This service will not expand to all cars?

No. It won't. A small minority of people will find a service like this valuable. Most people will continue to buy gas the way they do today, until and unless EVs really become practical.

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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"... allows Yoshi to access any car’s tank, even if the gas flap is locked." Very curious how this works.

Good question. We created a device (that we call a "Fuel Vault") that we can install in your car's "gas flap." We'll require that you leave your car's gas flap popped open for your first fill-up so that we can install it. After that, we'll be able to get into your gas flap anytime. It doesn't require any permanent modifications to your car, and can be removed anytime.

Except you weren't able to install it in my car? And likely plenty of others?

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I guess I'm one of those weird outliers who has a use case but still won't use the service. My wife works nights and rarely remembers to fuel our vehicle. I commute via Uber or bus so I never have it either. $15/mo is still too much for the service. Sooner or later my wife will run out of gas and then she'll do a better job of remembering to fuel the truck.

The density of gas stations is high enough that it works just fine to take a little detour to one of the several gas stations on the way between anywhere and anywhere when the dashboard light comes on. This might be more useful if gas stations begin to fold because of electric cars.

I think gas stations will gradually turn into something else. Already in Australia the serious ones are developing beyond just car refuelling.

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I had never heard of this kind of service until a couple of weeks ago when I saw a Booster fuels truck. The advertised prices on the truck were a good 20 cents/gallon lower than the Chevron across the street from where it was parked. OTOH, I don't know if they use top tier fuels with whatever detergent packages or if it's Arco-quality gas, or what.

Having seen but never used Arco--is there a significant difference in gasoline quality? I had always been under the impression that it was largely a commodity product with the various additives largely being used to help differentiate from a branding standpoint and not actually doing much.

In many major areas there are only one or two refineries anyways - it all comes from the same place and is rebranded. Sometimes with a tiny percentage of some special fuel additive poured in when they fill the gas station's tanks. For example in western WA there is Cherry Point or Anacortes. ARCO gas comes from the same place that refines petrol and diesel for 5 other major brands in the area.

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I think the HN crowd underestimates how valuable target users consider their time. I probably average 2 trips to the gas station a month and I have a below average commute. Each trip takes me 10 mins out of my way + 10 mins of fueling depending on if there's a line or not. And it's always before work (I'm in a rush) or after work (want to get home to family). Paying a startup $15/mo to reclaim even 40 mins a month of…

> the HN crowd underestimates how valuable target users consider their time. I don't, which is why I'm launching a butt-scratching on-demand service. You'll never have to stop what you're doing to scratch your butt again. In seriousness, time is the most precious resource we have. Still, I wonder if it's possible to overestimate its value.

Can we promote it with the Cloud to Butt extension? Seems like a logical marketing strategy.

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I think you underestimate how valuable the vast majority of the world considers their money. All this use of "My". Sorry to be blunt but you are irrelevant. Spend some time outside of the bubble, St. Louis for example. People here ain't gonna pay $15 to reclaim 40 minutes a month. This strikes me like the gig economy spend a $1 to get $0.90 strategy. There are huge costs for physical presence businesses that can only…

> People here ain't gonna pay $15 to reclaim 40 minutes a month are there no hand car washes in st. louis? a full service carwash saves about 40 minutes of labor that you can use to catch up on work or other activities, and costs about 15 bucks. and how about a cheap lunch at the diner for 1 or 2? wouldn't that be about $15? and saves you about 40 minutes of prep, cook, and clean? $15 in a taxi cab or uber would save…

You're missing the point. Most people don't think through this. They stop at "That costs me $15. Not gonna do it."

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I've never owned a car in a city as dense as SF or New York so maybe it's different in places like that, but this strikes me as yet another example of the "Uber-For-X" SV startup that doesn't solve any real problem. Stopping by the gas station once a week on my way home is simply not a big enough annoyance for me to subscribe to yet another service. I'm also skeptical of the long-term prospects of this business model…

Furthermore, Uber solved a problem in a market with inefficiencies and use regulation arbitrage to do it. This is just an on demand service betting on the fact that people are lazy enough to not want to put gas into their car. IMO, there are bigger (or actual) problems to solve. Honestly, I wonder why they didn't launch in Chicago or Boston in the winter when weather would make people not want to bother going outside…

Don't they have full service stations in Chicago or Boston?

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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I'd spend them doing anything aside from random boring necessary chores. If I could pay someone to actually handle all the boring mundane stuff for me just so I could have an extra hour a day to play video games, I'd do it. I have more money than time right now and you can't buy time ever, especially not while you're younger. I don't want to wait until retirement to have time to do whatever I want all the time. There…

>>If I could pay someone to actually handle all the boring mundane stuff for me just so I could have an extra hour a day to play video games, I'd do it. Sure, makes perfect sense for anything that goes beyond >1hr a day. But lets do the math here. Lets say some one charge $15-$20 per hour do your chores(Going by the minimum+ wage). For two hours you are now looking at $450-$600/month expenses for that. If you can aff…

> $450-$600/month expenses

To be fair, this is probably a trade-off people in SF are already making. I know I am in NYC - if I was willing to spend an extra hour/day commuting (and that's only weekday, of course), I could easily save $500/month or more on rent.

Re: Yoshi (YC S16) launches “set it and forget it” vehicle re-fueling service in SF

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Furthermore, Uber solved a problem in a market with inefficiencies and use regulation arbitrage to do it. This is just an on demand service betting on the fact that people are lazy enough to not want to put gas into their car. IMO, there are bigger (or actual) problems to solve. Honestly, I wonder why they didn't launch in Chicago or Boston in the winter when weather would make people not want to bother going outside…

Don't they have full service stations in Chicago or Boston?

They don't in Chicago.
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