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Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by r00fus »

dang wrote: post #56
lotharbot wrote: post #46

How long does the "unvote" option last? Permanently? If I accidentally bump the "unvote" button on a comment that's years old, can I re-apply my vote, or only if it's an upvote?

That is a subtle point and I was curious if someone would ask about it! Unvote links last for an hour. This is because the main use of voting data is to rank posts, and that's time sensitive. If we let people go back and unvote after hours have gone by (let alone years), that would be rewriting history, or counterfactually messing with it. Even an hour is arguably too long. Since the main purpose of this feature is t…

I'd agree an hour is too long; I would only really unvote if it was accidental (ie, immediately) or upon perusing the other comments or data that made me rethink my moderation (which would reasonably be ~5m or so).

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by dredmorbius »

Awesome! Now I need to dig out my list of suggestions for HN improvements, and see how many you hit, but this is a lot of them.

(Extending / changing markup to catch _underbars_ and include them on highlighting would be nice.)

OK, misses a number of Mobile usability issues, but still an improvement.

https://ello.co/dredmorbius/post/286xclrgdn2hgbgrikrovg

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by baby »

Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

I can confirm, I personally implemented a reddit-like app and started with the [-] on the right. Realized that it was really annoying and placed it on the left.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by baby »

aleem wrote: post #123
Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

Coming from HN Enhancement Suite add-on I too found this annoying.

and it broke the plugin :/

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by tzakrajs »

Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

You mean seek the collapse button linearly. :)

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by tokenizerrr »

kyrra wrote: post #160
Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

I actually prefer it at the end, as HN uses the same (or very similar) theming for Desktop and Mobile. Before Reddit redid their mobile experience, having voting buttons next to collapse meant many inadvertent votes when trying to collapse on mobile. Until HN has a good mobile theme by default, I'd prefer collapse and voting buttons to be well separated from one another.

But you can undo votes now!

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by DKnoll3 »

dang wrote: post #56
lotharbot wrote: post #46

How long does the "unvote" option last? Permanently? If I accidentally bump the "unvote" button on a comment that's years old, can I re-apply my vote, or only if it's an upvote?

That is a subtle point and I was curious if someone would ask about it! Unvote links last for an hour. This is because the main use of voting data is to rank posts, and that's time sensitive. If we let people go back and unvote after hours have gone by (let alone years), that would be rewriting history, or counterfactually messing with it. Even an hour is arguably too long. Since the main purpose of this feature is t…

I was always under the impression that the reason you couldn't undo was purely to encourage putting thought into your votes, instead of clicking after the first sentence, getting through the rest of the post, and looking to take your upvote back.

Guess I was wrong. I'd say 30 seconds should be enough, with this thought in mind =]

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by baby »

Good thing for HN, but this is actually really annoying for people like me who have been using the HN suite extension on firefox to place the [-] on the left.

Now that it's on the right you:

* can't minimize and maximize quickly

* can't minimize a series of comments quickly (you have to move your mouse a lot to find the [-] every time

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