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Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by jacquesm »

I've been playing around with the 'hide' feature on the new page for a bit and I've developed a simple workflow to help catch spam:

Look at a submission, decide whether to just ignore it, upvote it, flag it as spam or open a tab and leave a comment or to watch it for later.

Then 'hide' the submission. Like that you can easily keep track of what you've seen and what still needs to be looked at.

You could use the same method for the homepage.

It's a super useful feature.

Thanks Dan & Scott!

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

#152

Post by blfr »

dang wrote: post #28
minimaxir wrote: post #11

Why is hiding stories available to logged-out users? Reloading just makes them appear again. :p (EDIT: may be bug) On a related tangent, why have all instances of "submissions" on HN been replaced with "stories"? It's an change which IMO does not fit the usage. (A Show HN wouldn't make sense as a "story.")

> Reloading just makes them appear again Well, that's true of collapsed comment threads as well, and I somehow doubt that logged-in users are the only ones who see things on the front page they'd rather not. > why have all instances of "submissions" on HN been replaced with "stories" Because posts to HN are either stories or comments? Happy to discuss this at hn@ycombinator.com if you want to apply some lexicographic…

Now that we have thread collapsing there's no reason not to discuss finer lexicographical points right here!

Great changes btw.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

#153

Post by OzzyB »

Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

+1

Perhaps also adding the first line (truncated if need be) of the Parent's comment would be a nice addition also?

It would help when scanning all the collapsed comments and seeing some context other than the Parent's username?

Nevertheless these enhancements are much appreciated!

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

#155

Post by dang »

Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

The argument against that is that with the collapse button so close to the vote arrow, we would be guaranteed to get misvotes, especially on mobile. The undo vote feature would no doubt help with that some, but only so much.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

#158

Post by dang »

netcraft wrote: post #128
dang wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a subtle point and I was curious if someone would ask about it! Unvote links last for an hour. This is because the main use of voting data is to rank posts, and that's time sensitive. If we let people go back and unvote after hours have gone by (let alone years), that would be rewriting history, or counterfactually messing with it. Even an hour is arguably too long. Since the main purpose of this feature is t…

I think a few minutes would be fine - but it would be nice to still know how I voted after the fact.

Hmm. Good point.

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

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Post by aleem »

Some UI issues and recommendations.

1. The up/down arrows after a vote leave behind a clickable void. That means you can still click that void after you have voted. If you changed the visibility on .votelinks instead of the buttons this would get fixed. Though even better UX would be to have togglable up/down buttons ala stackoverflow and others.

2. Why not provide the favourite link directly on the comment instead of forcing an extra click and page load. If it's a UI clutter issue maybe consider adding star and flag UNICODE characters. Again, having togglable icons for the same would be nice.

3. The collapse icon would be better off on the left for improved UI consistency.

EDIT: UNICODE characters don't show in comment. Is this a bug? They show in the textarea while composing the comment.

EDIT2: Add the following User CSS using your preferred browser addon for a bit of cleanup.

    .togg {
      float: left;
      margin-right: 5px;
    }

    .votearrow {
      margin-bottom: 10px;
    }

Re: Tell HN: New features and a moderator

#160

Post by kyrra »

Someone1234 wrote: post #106

I have a piece of feedback. The new collapse button is at the end of the comment. This means that the collapse button's position on the page changes based on username length and duration wording (hours Vs. minutes, etc). One nice thing about other websites which I won't name, is that you can read and collapse all of the top comments without having to "seek" the collapse button constantly. You can literally scroll and…

I actually prefer it at the end, as HN uses the same (or very similar) theming for Desktop and Mobile. Before Reddit redid their mobile experience, having voting buttons next to collapse meant many inadvertent votes when trying to collapse on mobile.

Until HN has a good mobile theme by default, I'd prefer collapse and voting buttons to be well separated from one another.

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