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Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by manish_gill »

speeder wrote: post #70
legohead wrote: post #47

I happened to be in Russia when the Who's Hiring thread showed up. I have family there, so I was entertaining the thought of possibly moving there, or maybe staying for a year or two. However, I noticed most of the remote locations were "US-only", and even the ones in other countries were usually local to that country -- "germany only", etc. I was wondering how many of the "US-only" ones would accept me, since I am a…

I am from Brazil, since I graduated around 2009, I never got a 100% legal job, and never got a well paying job or contract. I keep hearing that I should move, or should work remote, I always reply: "How?" Because most countries only allow you to move into them if you get invited or is already wealthy. Most remote jobs I see, no matter where I look (I don't look only on HN) are US-only, or local only. Most jobs that a…

Pretty much this. I keep hearing how if I were in the US I'd be earning $80k minimum easy, but it's the getting there that's the hard part. As it stands, I'm barely making market salary here in New Delhi because yay startups.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#102

Post by daxfohl »

pchristensen wrote: post #52
daxfohl wrote: post #13

SF proper has 70% of "silicon valley" tech jobs? I figured south bay and the peninsula had much more than SF proper.

"SF proper has 70% of "silicon valley" tech jobs" ...that post on HN Who's Hiring. Big difference (biased towards newer companies) compared the the Bay Area tech industry as a whole. For instance, I'd bet that Google (Mtn View) + Facebook have more job postings any given month than the whole HN Who's Hiring post. And that's not counting eBay, Cisco, Apple, LinkedIn, Tesla, etc etc etc.

Yeah, plenty of listings likely paraphrased per Jim Gaffigan:

It’s like, ‘Hey, where’re you from?’ ‘Me, I’m from San Francisco.’ ‘Oh really? Where in San Francisco?’ ‘Uhhh, outside San Francisco.’ ‘Where outside San Francisco?’ ‘Gilroy.’

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#103

Post by branchless »

branchless wrote: post #79
wrong_variable wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its a lot more complex than that. If the cost of beef was increased 4x for whatever reason, then most people would just switch their preference for meat. There are ofcourse a lot of greedy companies. But a lot of the time the consumer demands a price point for software product, many startups cannot afford to pay 400K to developers. I think its not a reflection of how difficult it might be to create software b…

The system of usury against land ensures that land costs adapt to absorb all available income after food/clothing/energy costs have been accounted for. Why is silicon valley more expensive to rent in? Because people came with money and the banks agreed to loan at a multiple of the new wage ceiling. If wages increase x4 guess what will happen? We need to stop banks creating debt to issue against land otherwise it will…

Would love to know how anyone could downvote this!

Come on, let's hear how rents are not tied to wages in a thread about remote working providing higher wages than the local area but lower wages than the hot-spot.

Let's hear it HN.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#104

Post by tensor »

RKoutnik wrote: post #62
BadassFractal wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be the CEO that decides to pay your employees 2-3x market rate? I'd love to watch that experiment from the sidelines.

400k is market rate for top-quality bay area engineers, depending on specialty [0]. You don't see job ads for those folks, because hackers like that don't read them. [0] And even for lower-paying specialties (like UI/UX), 400k isn't even 2x market rate.

At these rates it doesn't make any sense for any company to hire in the bay area. There are amazing engineers elsewhere in the US and in the world who have much more reasonable salary expectations and also live in places with much more reasonable living expenses.

Bay area engineers like to pretend that there are no people of their calibre elsewhere in the world, but that is just flat out wrong.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#105

Post by rwhitman »

I'm increasingly curious about what kinds of trends there are in tech hiring outside of the English speaking world. Wouldn't the HN "Who's Hiring" thread being in English make it inherently biased in terms of global trends, especially when looking for the "next Silicon Valley" as the end goal?

Would a city like Beijing or Taipei be adequately represented here at all?

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#106

Post by spraak »

jballanc wrote: post #25

One additional reason that I've observed to add to the list: * Declining dominance of the Microsoft/Oracle hegemony in secondary markets During the '90s Microsoft and Oracle were particularly effective at entering emerging markets and pushing their solutions to such a degree that "computer programmer" became synonymous with "Microsoft/Oracle developer". Thus, if you wanted to become a software developer in one of the…

Is there anywhere (e.g. blog) you've shared about your move and experience living in Turkey? Like, do you speak Turkish for your job?

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#107

Post by spraak »

speeder wrote: post #70
legohead wrote: post #47

I happened to be in Russia when the Who's Hiring thread showed up. I have family there, so I was entertaining the thought of possibly moving there, or maybe staying for a year or two. However, I noticed most of the remote locations were "US-only", and even the ones in other countries were usually local to that country -- "germany only", etc. I was wondering how many of the "US-only" ones would accept me, since I am a…

I am from Brazil, since I graduated around 2009, I never got a 100% legal job, and never got a well paying job or contract. I keep hearing that I should move, or should work remote, I always reply: "How?" Because most countries only allow you to move into them if you get invited or is already wealthy. Most remote jobs I see, no matter where I look (I don't look only on HN) are US-only, or local only. Most jobs that a…

A way to get experience might be to suggest that you're hired as a consultant or contractor. It's easier for the company to do, but be careful that they still treat you fairly. I know a company in the UK that does this for its remote workers.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#108

Post by metafunctor »

branchless wrote: post #79
wrong_variable wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its a lot more complex than that. If the cost of beef was increased 4x for whatever reason, then most people would just switch their preference for meat. There are ofcourse a lot of greedy companies. But a lot of the time the consumer demands a price point for software product, many startups cannot afford to pay 400K to developers. I think its not a reflection of how difficult it might be to create software b…

The system of usury against land ensures that land costs adapt to absorb all available income after food/clothing/energy costs have been accounted for. Why is silicon valley more expensive to rent in? Because people came with money and the banks agreed to loan at a multiple of the new wage ceiling. If wages increase x4 guess what will happen? We need to stop banks creating debt to issue against land otherwise it will…

This seem to be exactly how it works. A lot of states and countries have tried to fix the problem by introducing housing benefits – but guess who, in the end, gets that money?

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#109

Post by xando »

rwhitman wrote: post #105

I'm increasingly curious about what kinds of trends there are in tech hiring outside of the English speaking world. Wouldn't the HN "Who's Hiring" thread being in English make it inherently biased in terms of global trends, especially when looking for the "next Silicon Valley" as the end goal? Would a city like Beijing or Taipei be adequately represented here at all?

I've just run the query and it's 6 (not this month, all time) with Beijing as a location.

My best guess for China is: they have to have something similar, although obviously not in English. They have a huge market with limited reasons to cooperate with English-speaking Internet. Also, Chinese Internet is isolated you won't see many services that are available in US or EU.

Fun fact there was an attempt to implement (copy) whoishiring.io http://www.v2ex.com/t/213945# the reason they like it but no google maps in china.

(I'm an author of this blog post)

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

#110

Post by anonymousguy »

TrickzOnU wrote: post #77
anonymousguy wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, just leave the bay area... http://www.moving.com/real-estate/compare-cities/results.asp... Seriously... why should a smaller house cost nearly 10x more in the same country? You won't be paid 10x less where the cheaper houses are.

Yes, that is what many of us do. We either leave the tech industry, or tech positions, or the area. There is no "shortage", it is just that "unfillable" positions dont pay a living wage for the locale+experience.

Just to be clear, leaving the bay area doesn't mean giving up on technology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano,_Texas#Economy
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