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How we're scammed into eating phony food

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Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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Post by vilmosi »

tremon wrote: post #369
vilmosi wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a British national dish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tikka_masala

Have you read the article you linked? Chicken tikka masala is chicken tikka, chunks of chicken marinated in spices and yogurt, that is then baked in a tandoor oven Those don't sound like British words... let's follow the links: Chicken tikka is a chicken dish originating in South Asia. A masala is any of the many spice mixes used in Indian cuisine. The name comes from the Hindi word for spice. The tandoor is used for…

So? Tomatoes aren't Italian, but pizza is.

Nobody is disputing the Asian influence on British cuisine. And nobody is disputing whether or not tikka masala is British.

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Post by vlod »

chadcmulligan wrote: post #246
marak830 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same effect, moving to japan. It's insane how much better the food is here, compared to Australia.

what food is better in Japan (part form sushi)? curious ozzy.

As a pizza wannabe-snob, I thought their Neapolitan pizza was outstanding (ingredients, dough, charring) pretty much everywhere I went. (Similar to fancy pizza in the US).

Also their croissants were fabulous (almost on par to the ones I got in Paris) and compared to the mostly crap (unless you go to a passionate bakery) you get in the US.

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Post by teolemon »

ep103 wrote: post #307
teolemon wrote: post #188

We're trying to end this. Open Food Facts is an open, collaborative effort to try to make more sense of food and food packagings. A bit like Wikipedia, but for food. Using smartphones, you can scan any food item and get detailed and structured data about what you're about to buy/eat. If the item is not yet in the database, you can help by taking a picture, so that next time there will be detailed facts. You can perus…

Wait, how does your website take care of this problem? I clicked on a few items, and it just seemed to list the ingredients and nutritional information.

We list labels and claims, and enable calculations like calorie average on a food category, nutritional score calculations, and many other things.

We try to make it easier to read, decypher and compare food info.

Was there a feature you were expecting ?

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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Post by SamBam »

teolemon wrote: post #188

We're trying to end this. Open Food Facts is an open, collaborative effort to try to make more sense of food and food packagings. A bit like Wikipedia, but for food. Using smartphones, you can scan any food item and get detailed and structured data about what you're about to buy/eat. If the item is not yet in the database, you can help by taking a picture, so that next time there will be detailed facts. You can perus…

If I try to use your site to find out which "extra virgin" olive oils are cutting their oil with cheaper canola oil -- the only "packaged" product this article talks about -- I can find no such information.

So how does this site help "end this" practice?

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Post by chris_7 »

pipio21 wrote: post #172

Food in the US is sh*t. There are great things in the US and UK( from where it comes from), but food is so wrong there. I lived some years in Japan, I enjoyed the food. China, not so much, but is is so big you can find anything, they have gastronomical culture that is different and you have to get used to new flavors. The US totally lacks gastronomical culture. Everything is about money, and quantity. As an Spanish t…

I don't really get this, I've found European food to be fine, but really not any better than here in New York, especially for food that isn't native to the specific country (New York is filled with excellent restaurants for many Asian countries, even though it is obviously not in Asia).

Then there's the obvious farmer's market culture here (Union Square especially is a madhouse on Saturdays), and some people do CSAs, food co-ops, etc.

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studentrob wrote: post #384

I start sneezing whenever I eat processed food. I think it's an allergy to preservatives. There's no test for that. I first noticed it about 5 years ago. After eating Subway, I always got sneezy, and also after drinking beer. I had an allergy test but nothing came up positive. After years of trial and error, I'm pretty confident when I see a fake juice, condiment, or something commonly canned like olives that I will…

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Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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Post by nibs »

Hockenbrizzle wrote: post #109

Can anybody comment on how well food is regulated in Canada? Since moving from the US to the EU I've definitely noticed a difference in food quality. I'll soon be moving to Quebec so I would be interested to hear if Canada is more like the US or EU in this respect.

I will add that for products with nutrition labels, label claims are way stricter in Canada. In the USA, a label claim such as 200mg of Caffiene or 200mg of Sodium must be true at the best before date in order to be valid, but there is no tollerance for how far outside of it the product is when fresh. So 200mg of caffiene could actually mean 400mg of caffiene, with a five year shelf life, so that as the caffiee degrades, the product stays on the shelf long enough to sell, and is still 200mg at expiry. In Canada, a product must be within a percentage of claim value (5-10%) at all times, so things are much more likely to contain what they say they contain in the amount they say they contain it. Further, many products are pre-market regulated (supplements/fortified foods) and/or regulators are on-site full time (meat and some cheese processing) as opposed to the US where there is mostly post-market regulation (ie. a complaint is followed up by an inspector).

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Post by whamlastxmas »

bprieto wrote: post #138
derefr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the cheapest way to get guaranteed-real EV olive oil? Are there known-good brands (perhaps ones produced entirely outside of Italy?) Or, if you cared about "authentic Italian" olive oil, perhaps for personal or restaurant use (i.e. not for resale): how much would it cost (in the US) to just buy bulk Italian olives , and then press them yourself?

Try spanish olive oil. I'm spanish, so I probably have a bias. You can have pretty decent olive oil for less than 4 euros / litre here so olive oil is the only oil I use. If you buy oil bottled in Spain look for the "extra virgin olive oil" label: Aceite de oliva virgen extra. We are pretty serious with labeling around here, so you won't be fooled. There are varieties like picual, hojiblanca, arbequina or cornicabra…

4 euros per liter is crazy. In the US, even the cheapest crappy olive oil is $20/liter

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Post by undersuit »

rileymat2 wrote: post #331

Some people have a bad reaction to escolar, but it does taste really good. Well worth the risk.

Yes, I went to a sushi restaurant that was honest enough to list it on their menu. I only ordered one piece because I was aware of the reported digestion issues, but it was delicious and I had no distress later on.
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