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Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by xando »

yuvadam wrote: post #38

I find it very surprising that Tel Aviv, Israel (supposed "startup nation") is nowhere in those charts.

Please keep in mind that this only Hacker News Who is hiring, maybe other sources are more popular there.

Also, nearly every big city was already announced as next Silicon Valley by the press by now. The press is creating huge illusion here.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by ryandrake »

TrickzOnU wrote: post #16

I loved this line from the article "With unsolved US VISA problems for STEM workers, IT companies might have to get creative to hire potential employees." -- Yeah, creative...like paying a living wage for the location. Pay salaries that will allow someone to rent their own 1B (not bunking) and the "shortage" will magically disappear.

Yep, the tired old "Shortage of Engineers" meme is bound to come up in any discussion about tech hiring that ignores compensation. Saying there is a shortage of something in a market only makes sense given a price. Sure, there is probably a shortage of Bay Area engineers if you're paying $70K, but I bet there is no shortage if you're paying $400K.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by ryanSrich »

Remote work is not a silver bullet for solving the faux work shortage. Aside from the fact that there is no shortage in the first place [1], remote work is still very new. Without proper operations in place and a solid, tested, management structure you'll end up with a hodgepodge of culture and unhappy employees. I used to be bullish on remote work until I actually started doing it. It can certainly work, and I still encourage companies to explore it, but it's not a one size fits all approach, or a replacement for proper organizational management.

1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-s-solomon/the-myth-of-...

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by themoonbus »

_ao789 wrote: post #35
bchjam wrote: post #6

London is in Europe but Berlin in Germany? seems pretty ironic given recent news

London isn't technically in Europe anymore..

Europe means different things in different contexts... there is still a continent called Europe that the UK is a part of.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by anonymousguy »

TrickzOnU wrote: post #16

I loved this line from the article "With unsolved US VISA problems for STEM workers, IT companies might have to get creative to hire potential employees." -- Yeah, creative...like paying a living wage for the location. Pay salaries that will allow someone to rent their own 1B (not bunking) and the "shortage" will magically disappear.

Or, just leave the bay area... http://www.moving.com/real-estate/compare-cities/results.asp...

Seriously... why should a smaller house cost nearly 10x more in the same country? You won't be paid 10x less where the cheaper houses are.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by legohead »

I happened to be in Russia when the Who's Hiring thread showed up. I have family there, so I was entertaining the thought of possibly moving there, or maybe staying for a year or two.

However, I noticed most of the remote locations were "US-only", and even the ones in other countries were usually local to that country -- "germany only", etc.

I was wondering how many of the "US-only" ones would accept me, since I am a US Citizen, just not living in the US. Or is there some kind of tax reason they have to be US-only?

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by wrong_variable »

ryandrake wrote: post #42
TrickzOnU wrote: post #16

I loved this line from the article "With unsolved US VISA problems for STEM workers, IT companies might have to get creative to hire potential employees." -- Yeah, creative...like paying a living wage for the location. Pay salaries that will allow someone to rent their own 1B (not bunking) and the "shortage" will magically disappear.

Yep, the tired old "Shortage of Engineers" meme is bound to come up in any discussion about tech hiring that ignores compensation. Saying there is a shortage of something in a market only makes sense given a price. Sure, there is probably a shortage of Bay Area engineers if you're paying $70K, but I bet there is no shortage if you're paying $400K.

I think its a lot more complex than that.

If the cost of beef was increased 4x for whatever reason, then most people would just switch their preference for meat.

There are ofcourse a lot of greedy companies.

But a lot of the time the consumer demands a price point for software product, many startups cannot afford to pay 400K to developers.

I think its not a reflection of how difficult it might be to create software but stagnant wages for the average person.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by wrong_variable »

lxfontes wrote: post #46

honest question: Any idea why Toronto (and Canada in general) is not higher in this list?

Per capita Toronto/Vancouver is a lot higher than London, its just that London is 8 million people while Toronto is barely 3 million.

Re: Hacker News' “Who is Hiring?” thread, part 2, remote and locations

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Post by slantedview »

We embrace technology for every stupid purpose imaginable, yet remote work facilitated by technology is generally viewed with disdain. It makes no sense, which is why remote work will continue to rise into the future. The dramatic centralization of our industry into a few locations also doesn't help with the crush of housing costs.
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