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How we're scammed into eating phony food

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Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

#101

I'm glad that this article is about actual fraud rather than the much more common (and less interesting) "Processed food isn't real food" type hysteria that is much more prevalent these days.

It is more common because that problem is much more widespread and ultimately much more dangerous for the health of the victims.

How can it be even more widespread than the practically ubiquitous fraud reported in the article?

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

#102

That's why EU people are protesting against TTIP. We're worried that the lower standards that are common in USA, will prevail, and any resistance will be trampled in private arbitrage courts.

Yes, this is a huge worry for me. The quality of food in the US is atrocious. When I was there, almost nothing tasted as it should, everything tasted bland and mildly sweet. The only way I found to get decent meat was to buy ultra-posh organic stuff at ridiculous prices, and then it would be no more than on par with the cheapest meat I could buy in Spain. Even chocolate is affected!

TTIP is one of the worst things that could happen to quality of life in Europe.

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal

As I said - incidents happen. And if the last scandal you have found is dated back to 2013, that only confirms my point.

Sorry, I thought you were claiming that fake food was not widespread. ("because every EU country has its own FDA equivalent that provisions much smaller market")

> if the last scandal you have found is dated back to 2013, that only confirms my point.

Words fail me at your reasoning. How closely do you think I follow foreign food purity issues?

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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post #73

The article conflates the problem of "the physical item is a bait-and-switch" with the problem of "same thing made the same way, just not in the geographical location with the name". If the only thing that differentiates two food items is the name of the location in which one was made, then that's just pure food wank.

Well it's not as simple as that, because if for example a given wine is produced a few kilometers from the Bordeaux region for example, it's probably similar in quality and you can consider yourself a wise consumer for finding it. However, if it's made in a very different place, the conditions might be different, and tradition will most likely be different, so protected designations of origin (PDOs) make sense in certain markets.

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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post #53

I've always been frustrated by the lack of government involvement in situations like this. Not specific to food but businesses in general. I leave my car parked for an hour past when I'm supposed to - harming no one really - and I get a ticket. Meanwhile blatant fraud gets ignored?

Ferengistan in all its disgusting purity. The profit (or avoiding-cost) motive always prevails.

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

#107
post #15

Is there an app or a site that tracks brands and tests their claims of what's in their food? I'm always curious especially when buying olive oil if what I'm buying is actually real. I think the biggest issue is consumers have no way of knowing what's actually in the food they eat. If the information were readily available it'd be much harder to push food substitutes.

In switzerland the WWF has a very good overview over all (mostly swiss) labels for meat, fish and all other kinds of food. I suggest to checkout one of those very critic organizations.

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

#108
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To me, Greek Yoghurt has to come from greece, that's what I expect as a customer. Why do you expect that? It can't be based on the name, since virtually all foods with an origin name were not actually made there. I'm pretty sure you don't expect Cheddar cheese to have come from Cheddar? Would you accept ordinary yoghurt that was imported from Greece being sold as "Greek Yoghurt"? If I imported Camembert cheese from…

You can expect that because EU regulation requires it to be that way.

If that's the reason you expect it, the regulation is the sole justification for its own existence. I feel quite comfortable calling that "stupid".

Re: How we're scammed into eating phony food

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is more common because that problem is much more widespread and ultimately much more dangerous for the health of the victims.

When you cook something on your stove, it becomes "processed food". If you have an aversion towards anything you hear is 'processed food', you are basically a chump.

The problem is industrial food is usually made with industrial grade additives: Monosodium glutamate, modified palm oil, various stabilisers, buckets of sugar, etc - I would list more, but I literally threw away the worst offender I had on hand (Pre-made meal-in-a-jar)
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