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A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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On the other hand, autoimmune diseases have been increasing in prevalence over the last century. While these diseases are rarely immediately fatal, in severe cases they can have a major impact on quality of life. Onset often occurs in early adulthood so the cost of treatment over a lifetime can be extremely high. The usual treatment, immunosuppressive therapy, also has serious risks of its own. While there has been m…

Clinically speaking, perhaps biological evolution had a chance of dealing with this. Now, biological evolution has been replaced by "social evolution". A trait of physically debilitating condition, that is treatable, is no longer a reproduction fullstop. Those genes carry on. What genes will peter out are the absence of skills that are employable and not being able to find a partner because of that. Of course this is…

Unemployed people have plenty of kids. Not sure what's being selected for, but it's not that

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Absolutely. I wish this article wouldn't speak so generally when I hear consistent articles about major spikes in: - Autoimmune issues (especially allergies) - Obesity (particularly in children) and diabetes - Autism - Depression, ADD, and similar disorders

> Autism - Depression, ADD, and similar disorders My personal impression is that the rise of mental conditions is an increase in diagnosis, not occurrence. An awful lot of people who, just a few decades ago, would have been dismissed as lazy, stupid, whiny, or the all-purpose "crazy" are actually starting to receive recognition and treatment. That's a good thing.

> My personal impression is that the rise of mental conditions is an increase in diagnosis, not occurrence.

Robert Whitaker [1] has looked into the matter, and proposes that standard treatments take an episodic disease and make it chronic.

[1] Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America - http://www.madinamerica.com/product/62043/

My step-brother hates what his psychiatrists did to him. He stopped taking their drugs, and is rather normal now.

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Absolutely. I wish this article wouldn't speak so generally when I hear consistent articles about major spikes in: - Autoimmune issues (especially allergies) - Obesity (particularly in children) and diabetes - Autism - Depression, ADD, and similar disorders

> Autism - Depression, ADD, and similar disorders My personal impression is that the rise of mental conditions is an increase in diagnosis, not occurrence. An awful lot of people who, just a few decades ago, would have been dismissed as lazy, stupid, whiny, or the all-purpose "crazy" are actually starting to receive recognition and treatment. That's a good thing.

The increase in suicide rates seems to be evidence against this hypothesis.

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Other sources of lead, such as paint, are still an epidemic in poor neighborhoods. I wonder how much of an impact it's having, and if there's a measurable correlation with the age of houses and violent crime.

I'd heard that the most violent areas in New Orleans are those with high concentrations of lead in the environment, and a quick Google search brought up this piece from February that states that precisely: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure...

Couldn't that be correlation as well? That is - those neighborhoods are the least likely to be rehabilitated and the buildings retrofitted to remove pollutants?

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I wonder if all the benefits may be coming from people having kids later in life. You'd think this would lead to more disease, but maybe we are actually evolving to be longer living and the kids later in life is what is causing it.

Research does show that having kids is correlated to having a longer life expectancy: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/iage/201410/having-chil...

Maybe because the kids born in later in life are born to more educated, and more well-off parents?

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> Autism - Depression, ADD, and similar disorders My personal impression is that the rise of mental conditions is an increase in diagnosis, not occurrence. An awful lot of people who, just a few decades ago, would have been dismissed as lazy, stupid, whiny, or the all-purpose "crazy" are actually starting to receive recognition and treatment. That's a good thing.

The increase in suicide rates seems to be evidence against this hypothesis.

are suicide rates going up overall? all I can find, back to the 1950s, is that the rate has gone up and down with no clear upwards or downwards trend over those years (2010 rates are slightly below 1950s rates)

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html

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On the other hand, autoimmune diseases have been increasing in prevalence over the last century. While these diseases are rarely immediately fatal, in severe cases they can have a major impact on quality of life. Onset often occurs in early adulthood so the cost of treatment over a lifetime can be extremely high. The usual treatment, immunosuppressive therapy, also has serious risks of its own. While there has been m…

Do you know if the increase of autoimmune diseases is of the order of magnitude as the decrease of other diseases mentioned in the article?

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There have been a number of meta studies which have tried to link the removal of lead from gasoline and the drop in violent crime. The correlate well.

Also the legality of abortion (Roe v Wade, 1973) could be a contributing reason. The drop in crime came about 18 - 20 years after abortion was declared a constitutional right. Most crime is caused by teenagers and young adults. What affect started in 1992,1993 that is still happening today?

In my country abortion laws were changed to much stricter 19 years ago, while everything else changed like in most developed countries.

Crime dropped significantly, and is on the low-medium end in European Union, from high-end in early nineties.

So I think abortion is irrelevant, and it's mostly lead and general quality of life issues.

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The increase in suicide rates seems to be evidence against this hypothesis.

are suicide rates going up overall? all I can find, back to the 1950s, is that the rate has gone up and down with no clear upwards or downwards trend over those years (2010 rates are slightly below 1950s rates) http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html

For CZ we have stats up-to 1870s: https://www.czso.cz/csu/czso/sebevrazdy_zaj

(link in czech - sorry. First image, brown line is relative suicidal rate that is probably a good metric for comparison.)

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