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A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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Re: A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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Speculation:

- People have become more aware of the risk factors, and behave accordingly. Awareness would be connected to prevalence but have a lagged effect.

- Deadly diseases cause evolutionary responses. Perhaps a disproportionate number of people with predisposition to these illnesses passed away before having offspring.

- Reporting bias? While an illness looms large in the minds of the medical community, doctors are more likely to either wrongly attribute to the illness (false positive), or do false negatives less often.

- Highly speculative: combined effects are non-linear. I don't know what they use to do these studies, but typically you hear something along the lines of "for every x, there's m*x effect", which makes things sounds nice and linear. Maybe better prevention and better treatment does better than either on its own summed up, and so you won't be able to find the "reason" by splitting into each feature.

Re: A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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This is weird: >Until the late 1930s, stomach cancer was >the No. 1 cause of cancer deaths in the >United States.

Does that take into account refrigeration? Maybe it's totally unrelated --but prior to refrigeration a lot of meats were cured.

The article suggests several possibilities, including increasing use of antibiotics, and less consumption of salted/cured meats, but the actual answer is unknown.

And actually that is the crux of the article: it's not that doctors aren't thinking of possibilities to explain the reduction in disease, they just don't know for sure which of the possibilities they are.

Basically, if we've thought of a possibility in the last 20 minutes since reading the article (or headline), a doctor has probably already thought of it, too.

Re: A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that take into account refrigeration? Maybe it's totally unrelated --but prior to refrigeration a lot of meats were cured.

The article suggests several possibilities, including increasing use of antibiotics, and less consumption of salted/cured meats, but the actual answer is unknown. And actually that is the crux of the article: it's not that doctors aren't thinking of possibilities to explain the reduction in disease, they just don't know for sure which of the possibilities they are. Basically, if we've thought of a possibility in the…

True enough. One other thing is also the decline of "elixirs" with unknown ingredients, chemicals of then unknown toxicity.

Re: A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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post #13

Curious, if the cause is the decline in cigarette consumption; here's a graph showing roughly 100 years of data for the topic: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p4ECPyex_cY/TzSalazW2XI/AAAAAAAAA2...

The lines do seem to correlate. In the case of stomach cancer, I'm wondering if there's a similar correlation between the decline in chewing tobacco and the decline in stomach cancer. Chew is full of fiberglass and other stuff, and if you swallow any of the juice you're swallowing that stuff. It's impossible to clear it all from your mouth after you finish chewing, too.

Re: A Medical Mystery of the Best Kind: Major Diseases Are in Decline

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This is weird: >Until the late 1930s, stomach cancer was >the No. 1 cause of cancer deaths in the >United States.

Widespread refrigeration removed the need for cured and salted meats. This is widely thought to explain the discrepancy.
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