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Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
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Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#12Windows 10 with Unity: you've got two problems now.
Wait until they port SystemD.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#13Wow that's really cool. This is pretty close to native performance? This is a really great step for Linux on the desktop. Such an easy way to onboard people.
AFAIK This is not emulation or virtualization, so as long as Microsoft's implementation of the Linux kernel APIs on top of the Windows kernel is performant, and the X11 implementation is also performant, this should have native performance.
Also considering the state of graphics drivers on GNU/Linux and on Windows, it wouldn't surprise me if for some specific hardware configurations, the “perceived interactive performance“ (responsiveness) of the UI was actually higher on Ubuntu for Windows than on it running on top of the Linux kernel.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#14Cool hack, but I really prefer native Win 10 window management. The only thing superior is IMHO XMonad.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#15Wow that's really cool. This is pretty close to native performance? This is a really great step for Linux on the desktop. Such an easy way to onboard people.
Not really except on the broadest definition of Linux, where Linux is ~= Unix. Linux is a kernel. GNU is the Unix environment which they are getting to explore, more specifically with the Ubuntu OS mgmt tools.
Now what I don't get, and I'm not trolling here, is why would you want this? Isn't a VM a better option?
I assume people using Windows want to because of the UI, not the kernel. Whereas people generally choose Linux/Gnu/Unix for the kernel and OS environment, not the UI. With Ubuntu on Windows you get part of what people have wanted, and arguable the most important part people want.
Will people really want a Windows kernel, with Ubuntu/GNU OS tools, and Unity? I suspect most would still want the Windows UI.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#16... I'm still waiting for the native-Linux-Docker-container announcement. I'd be shocked if MS+Docker weren't working on it.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#17Thought it was the Unity IoC ( might want to specify this more explicitly )
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#18It looks pretty cool.
I think I might switch from OS X to Windows 10 on my laptop someday, maybe after Surfacebook 2 release.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#19Wow that's really cool. This is pretty close to native performance? This is a really great step for Linux on the desktop. Such an easy way to onboard people.
AFAIK This is not emulation or virtualization, so as long as Microsoft's implementation of the Linux kernel APIs on top of the Windows kernel is performant, and the X11 implementation is also performant, this should have native performance. Also considering the state of graphics drivers on GNU/Linux and on Windows, it wouldn't surprise me if for some specific hardware configurations, the “perceived interactive perfor…
It is syscall-level emulation. Emulation in this case doesn't mean it has to be slow. I am curious how they implemented `fork(2)`, though.
Re: Ubuntu Unity running on Windows 10
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFAIK This is not emulation or virtualization, so as long as Microsoft's implementation of the Linux kernel APIs on top of the Windows kernel is performant, and the X11 implementation is also performant, this should have native performance. Also considering the state of graphics drivers on GNU/Linux and on Windows, it wouldn't surprise me if for some specific hardware configurations, the “perceived interactive perfor…
It is syscall-level emulation. Emulation in this case doesn't mean it has to be slow. I am curious how they implemented `fork(2)`, though.
Surprisingly, the NT kernel implements a copy-on-write fork function - the Windows subsystem does not allow Windows applications to use that function, though. Bash for Windows is implemented as a separate subsystem from Windows on top of the NT kernel, allowing it to build its own abstractions on top of the kernel.