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CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

> material presented in this [...] may be triggering to some students." Can't be serious as I didn't see MUMPS in the list. (Who gets that joke wins a free trip to Wisconsin)

You work for Epic?

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

So sad that they are forced to put such "warnings" on this kind of courses.

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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Thanks for posting OP, can someone comment on how this compares to mit 6.830 (hopefully someone who has taken both the courses :)) http://db.csail.mit.edu/6.830/sched.html http://db.csail.mit.edu/6.830/notes.html

For folks interested there's another implementation specific db course https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs346/2015/ although the lectures are not on youtube

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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post #12

From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

So sad that they are forced to put such "warnings" on this kind of courses.

I guess people signing up for a database course should expect triggers to feature at some point

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

Probably referring to the Master-Slave terminology

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

There was a similar issue some years ago, where a popular author on Oracle PL/SQL began polluting his technical books with politically-charged text in the examples. In this case, though, the "trigger" was not something so innocuous as terminology such as master-slave. The author's justification here: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly//news/feuerstein_10...

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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From the syllabus: " Trigger Warning: The material presented in this lecture uses explicit language and discusses certain situations in database management systems that may be triggering to some students."

There was a similar issue some years ago, where a popular author on Oracle PL/SQL began polluting his technical books with politically-charged text in the examples. In this case, though, the "trigger" was not something so innocuous as terminology such as master-slave. The author's justification here: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly//news/feuerstein_10...

I'd hesitate to describe master-slave as innocuous to begin with.

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a similar issue some years ago, where a popular author on Oracle PL/SQL began polluting his technical books with politically-charged text in the examples. In this case, though, the "trigger" was not something so innocuous as terminology such as master-slave. The author's justification here: http://archive.oreilly.com/pub/a/oreilly//news/feuerstein_10...

I'd hesitate to describe master-slave as innocuous to begin with.

Understood. I meant to make a distinction between commonly accepted terminology, and free-form text where the author chooses to make controversial statements. And yes I'm aware of the existing controversy over use of master-slave in technology documentation.

Re: CMU 15-721 (Spring 2016) Database Systems

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By taking this course and referring others to it you're directly supporting CMU - and indirectly supporting CMU's activities related to breaking the Internet for the FBI/US: https://www.google.com/search?q=CMU+TOR

It's unfair to think of CMU as an 'evil' entity just because of what some people in one particular and small department did.

There's a lot of really good work that comes out of CMU, including the department that helped the FBI.

EDIT: furthermore, SEI was doing independent research into the security of TOR. The FBI subpoena'd CMU to give up the results/contents of the research which is what ultimately helped the FBI do what they wanted.

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