FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation • Hacker News Board

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#11

Post by sigzero » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:03 PM UTC

trentmb wrote: post #9

baq wrote: post #6

modern pascal is actually pretty good. it's very unfortunate that it isn't considered sexy. i learned programming on turbo pascal and used to think that pascal isn't a serious language. years later, after seeing that it's not dead and dropping prejudices against it i can see that it lost pretty much only because of its perceived uncoolness.

Or that you have to drop $1,405.00 [0] to get a 'professional' environment. [0] https://www.embarcadero.com/app-development-tools-store/delp...

Yeah, they are really doing it wrong IMO. But it is what it is at this point.

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#12

Post by dmix » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:05 PM UTC

trentmb wrote: post #9

baq wrote: post #6

modern pascal is actually pretty good. it's very unfortunate that it isn't considered sexy. i learned programming on turbo pascal and used to think that pascal isn't a serious language. years later, after seeing that it's not dead and dropping prejudices against it i can see that it lost pretty much only because of its perceived uncoolness.

Or that you have to drop $1,405.00 [0] to get a 'professional' environment. [0] https://www.embarcadero.com/app-development-tools-store/delp...

And no Linux support (yet).

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#13

Post by analognoise » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:18 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #12

trentmb wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or that you have to drop $1,405.00 [0] to get a 'professional' environment. [0] https://www.embarcadero.com/app-development-tools-store/delp...

And no Linux support (yet).

Linux is well supported by Lazarus and FreePascal!

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#14

Post by Animats » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:23 PM UTC

trentmb wrote: post #9

baq wrote: post #6

modern pascal is actually pretty good. it's very unfortunate that it isn't considered sexy. i learned programming on turbo pascal and used to think that pascal isn't a serious language. years later, after seeing that it's not dead and dropping prejudices against it i can see that it lost pretty much only because of its perceived uncoolness.

Or that you have to drop $1,405.00 [0] to get a 'professional' environment. [0] https://www.embarcadero.com/app-development-tools-store/delp...

That's the problem. You can't sell programming tools any more. Everyone expects them to be free. Walter Bright, the designer of D and one of the first good C++, is on here, and has mentioned that before.

So programming tools come from some source that has an agenda. Oracle. Microsoft. Google. Even Mozilla.

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#15

Post by analognoise » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:26 PM UTC

I'll donate when it all gets setup. I really like Pascal. Jeff Duntemann is writing new intro books and releasing then under a Creative Commons license iirc. It's a great language and a killer environment.

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#16

Post by ics » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:34 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #8

I wish they chose a better name than "Free Pascal". It makes it sound like a lower-quality version. After that recent Object Pascal guide was on HN [1] I've been meaning to try the language out. It looks like it might be a nice alternative to using Ruby on some small side projects where I need a quick OO language to work with. I've grown attached to static types so it looks like it might be a good option. My only con…

You might also be interested in Nim, see for example: http://goran.krampe.se/2014/10/29/nim-and-oo/

(Static types, basic OO, syntax, fast compilation)

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#17

Post by claystu » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:39 PM UTC

analognoise wrote: post #13

dmix wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And no Linux support (yet).

Linux is well supported by Lazarus and FreePascal!

I think the parent meant Delphi

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#18

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:39 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #7

trentmb wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mon Jun 27 08:14:36 CEST 2016

That's just the date on someone's excited post to a mailing list, at having discovered http://foundation.freepascal.org . I don't see any explicit dates in that site's content. Oh, except that the projects have dates on them. Both current and past projects are tagged 2016. Busy beavers! Mid 2016, and already three 2016-dated items are "past projects".

[deleted]

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#19

Post by bencoder » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:44 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #7

trentmb wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mon Jun 27 08:14:36 CEST 2016

That's just the date on someone's excited post to a mailing list, at having discovered http://foundation.freepascal.org . I don't see any explicit dates in that site's content. Oh, except that the projects have dates on them. Both current and past projects are tagged 2016. Busy beavers! Mid 2016, and already three 2016-dated items are "past projects".

next message in thread is saying that it hasn't been announced yet: http://lists.freepascal.org/fpc-pascal/2016-June/048216.html

Re: FreePascal and Lazarus Foundation

#20

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 06, 2016, 7:49 PM UTC

analognoise wrote: post #15

I'll donate when it all gets setup. I really like Pascal. Jeff Duntemann is writing new intro books and releasing then under a Creative Commons license iirc. It's a great language and a killer environment.

[deleted]