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Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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To guys out there who still smoke. Please quit. It can be done.

I've quit 4 times. Last time I was sure and totally relaxed. When you know you want to quit, you will, it doesn't matter the technique used to quit, I felt I was about to quit with determination.

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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lol vegans have FAR LESS cancer ( http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2250052.html ) but nooo, I won't go vegan - those peoplz ares crazies!!!11

Is it because they are vegan or because vegans live healthier lifestyles?

They'd have you believe those are one and the same

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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No deep psychology needed. With hearts, you open up and you see clogged arteries, for example. It doesn't get much simpler than "too much fat is bad for your heart". With cancer? It could be anything. And there are tons of different types, seemingly hitting all kinds of people, fat smokers and lean non-smoking vegans alike.

...except fat isn't necessarily responsible for heart disease. High blood glucose and inflammation are much more likely to be responsible.

Doesn't matter though (for our question). The mere impression that it does, explains why people think heart disease is more at their hand to prevent.

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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BMI is so bad. I'm 6'0 and the last time I was under BMI 25 I was a triathlete. The only way I could be I did quit smoking though: - Really wanted to - Picked a good mental argument against it ($100k CAD over 20 years) - Picked a quit date - Patch + zyban + nicotene lozenges If you live in British Columbia, the government will pay for your patches or lozenges (hint: ask a friend)

I'm 6'1 and I had a BMI of about 26 until recently - I was definitely pudgy. I also claimed that BMI was worthless until I dropped a few pounds and realised that it was right and I was just making excuses. If you're an athlete, or a bodybuilder, or particularly tall or small, it won't necessarily fit you. but if you're of normal-ish stature (ie 5'4 to 6'3), and don't keep track of your weight, it's probably bang on.

I've had a BMI of 27 for most of my adult life. I used to do competitive sport and trained for sessions a week 45 weeks a year, I got to 40 and couldn't cut it anymore so I quit. My bmi stayed at 28... I looked at a photo of me at age 28 about eight months ago and compared myself to that. The photo showed muscle bulk and tone, the mirror showed a big belly. I've adopted what I call the beer, bread and biscuits diet (as in NO) and avoid alcohol four days a week altogether. I've lost six kg, six more to go!

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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To guys out there who still smoke. Please quit. It can be done.

I think as a culture (speaking here in the US) we've made quitting smoking out to be much harder than it actually is. One of the problems with this massive marketing campaign saying things like "You can quit with help!", etc.. is it's focusing on how difficult it's supposed to be. After 20 years or so of being a smoker, I just decided I didn't want to be embarrassed about the way I smelled in elevators anymore, and q…

The pain of cold turkey stopping and the hardship of quitting in general vary widely between individuals; and even to a lesser extent at different periods of time for the same individual, I think.

I once stopped smoking for ~3 weeks and I too found it easier than advertised, but not nearly as easy as you; also, the most problematic symptom for me was irritability (I was a complete irrascible bastard while stopping). And I know people for which it is very, very hard (cold sweats, migraines, etc. for two weeks).

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think as a culture (speaking here in the US) we've made quitting smoking out to be much harder than it actually is. One of the problems with this massive marketing campaign saying things like "You can quit with help!", etc.. is it's focusing on how difficult it's supposed to be. After 20 years or so of being a smoker, I just decided I didn't want to be embarrassed about the way I smelled in elevators anymore, and q…

The pain of cold turkey stopping and the hardship of quitting in general vary widely between individuals; and even to a lesser extent at different periods of time for the same individual, I think. I once stopped smoking for ~3 weeks and I too found it easier than advertised, but not nearly as easy as you; also, the most problematic symptom for me was irritability (I was a complete irrascible bastard while stopping).…

14 year ex smoker here. 1 week of sweating hell and tic tacs followed by 3 months of hell and tic tacs and now I'm a few years free :) Not easy but just requires certitude.

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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Oh, I don't know. On the one hand, part of me agrees with you. On the other hand, when someone tells me that they've optimized a compiler and it can now compile 3% faster I get really excited and pull their repo, I don't turn around and say "you mean 97% as slow" and keep complaining about how long compilation takes and how nothing can be done about it. Show that there are steps you can take to cut it by 33% more tha…

I agree with your basic point - but doesn't "3% faster" usually mean that it runs faster in all cases? So the "97% as slow" does not seem to be clear. Maybe it should be said as the improvement is not significant enough according to some numerical threshold?

I think it's closer to "I boosted conversion rates on our sign up page by 33%."

Sure, not every visitor signs up still, but some group of people found the new copy compelling enough to sign up - with no new, very expensive feature development.

Re: Helpless to Prevent Cancer? Actually, Quite a Bit Is in Your Control

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To guys out there who still smoke. Please quit. It can be done.

I think as a culture (speaking here in the US) we've made quitting smoking out to be much harder than it actually is. One of the problems with this massive marketing campaign saying things like "You can quit with help!", etc.. is it's focusing on how difficult it's supposed to be. After 20 years or so of being a smoker, I just decided I didn't want to be embarrassed about the way I smelled in elevators anymore, and q…

Yeah that first time you quit is easy. Then something bad happens in life and you smoke because you're sad. Now you know how easy it is to quit so paradoxically you don't actually quit. You turn into a every-other-weekend smoker. Then after months or years of on-off smoking you realize that it's no longer as easy to quit as that first time. Now that one smoke is actually going to matter.

Also, nicotine has the highest capture rates of any drug (over 30%) and the third highest dependence rate (after heroin and cocaine). Startup founders with unbelievable amounts of determination may be able to just give it up and say it was "easy" (I said the same thing the first time I quit) but many people are not so gifted.

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