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Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by freehunter »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #33
t0pz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me provide you with some insight into your bewonderment: 1) I work in the Ad technology industry and i can tell you with confidence that ads are far from dead. The human logic of "We hate it, so it must not be working" is understandable but condradicting the actual data entirely. I look at this data on a daily basis and i can tell you that Ads have increased by a LOT in the last 10 years. They are also working fo…

>First of all, adblock has destroyed a significant number of small bloggers, content-writers, and other publishers, as especially those were struggling to stay above water. People used to do that for free because they cared about the content they were writing, rather than because it was making their daily bread. I distinctly remember the quality of writing during this time being much higher than it is today.

Yeah, I run three blogs that I started within the last two years and none of them have ads. None of them make money. It costs me $15/mo for hosting and $30/yr for domain name registration for all three combined, so it's not like I'm going bankrupt if I don't make money from my blog. I just like writing, and I get pretty excited when I get 50 views a day on one of them.

Run your adblocker, I don't care. It's not blocking anything on my site. I get "paid" (infrequently) in non-monetary ways, like when I'm given a coupon to a restaurant in exchange for writing an article about them. Your ad blocker won't do a thing to stop that, and on the plus side, that coupon won't infect your PC with malware.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by tonmoy »

adsense_is_crap wrote: post #86
jasonwen wrote: post #17

This year we will stop using AdSense altogether. No support at all and the payouts have been declining every year. With the increase of ad blockers, even less encouraging to use ads in general. Sometimes I wonder, are ads as we know it, dead? Everyone hates it, has real usability impact and security risks. Didnt get the email though...

Hear, hear! It truly amazes me, though I can confirm witnessing them (old and new users to the internet mostly), that there actual people who click on "One Weird Tip to Lose Ten Pounds"... But even they eventually learn like the rest of us to be wary of them from what I have learnt. My conjecture is that ultimately when new internet user growth rate slows enough, ads will no longer be a viable and naturally die out!…

I don't know, I do see a few relevant ad sometimes these days. I found the shoes I am wearing from an ad, and they are neither good nor bad, but the ad did serve its purpose of notifying me that a product of my liking was available.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

#103

Post by waterphone »

kyriakos wrote: post #46

I've had a domain banned on adsense 8 years ago for something a user posted. I still can't speak to a human to help me get it unbanned.

My entire account has been banned for 6+ years for someone else clicking on my ads in a way that they claimed was fraudulent. Appeals and offers to turn over server logs all got rejected.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

#104

Post by niij »

t0pz wrote: post #36
madeofpalk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who also works in an industry tangentially related: * Ad impressions have gone up - its getting easier and easier to launch sites so the absolute number of ads on the internet is definitely going up. That doesn't speak to either side of the 'ads are dying' claims. * CPM rates are more or less going down * As CPM goes down, publishers are looking to recoup their losses, so they use bigger/more invasive ads,…

"Acceptable Ads program" is a label that covers up the extortion of Advertisers & Networks. Also, if the USER were actually controlling/deciding what is shown and what isn't then i would have 0 problems with it. However, so far their practice of who/what they allow and what not is arbitrary at best. Im not talking about the automatic acceptable ads program. I'm talking about their closed-door deals that have been goi…

I was filling your parent argument, but calling ABP a key logger just crossed into delusional territory.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by freehunter »

ocean3 wrote: post #85
tmptmp wrote: post #61

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>>You see an annoying commercial on TV about Butter over and over again, over the course of a month. These are quite intrusive and you certainly wouldn't want to see it again, if you had the choice. The very big difference between the TV ad and the intrusive web ad is: the web ad can run arbitrary (potentially harmful) code on my computer. So whatever you say adblocks are very important from end-user's POV. I don't w…

TV ad might not run arbitrary code. But its very annoying as well. Hence lots of pirating.

I'd be curious how many people pirate TV in order to skip the ads vs how many people pirate because they don't have access to the show, don't like the limited time they're able to see the show, or don't want to pay money to subscribe to the network. Seems like ads would be pretty far down the list of reasons to pirate.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by niij »

t0pz wrote: post #75
csydas wrote: post #34

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As you're in the industry, I'd like to ask two "aggressive" questions in the spirit of genuine curiosity. That is, I am looking to learn a different POV from my own end-user anti-ad POV. Regarding point 1: >They are also working for the Advertiser better now than they did 10 years ago, as we are able to track and measure much better. What people haven't noticed is the fact that they have become more native, less intr…

Re point 2: I get where you're coming from. The fact is, that margins on ads are incredibly small. Additionally, the % of people clicking on an ad is understandably low. Usually you get a CTR of 0.3% to 0.6% which for smaller, unpopular content providers isn't much. However, it is often just about enough to make ends meet. The problem is that low popularity is not enough to make anything additional or to even call it…

Which large company (outside the advertising industry, including Google) relies solely on Internet advertising for their income?

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by kriro »

t0pz wrote: post #20
jasonwen wrote: post #17

This year we will stop using AdSense altogether. No support at all and the payouts have been declining every year. With the increase of ad blockers, even less encouraging to use ads in general. Sometimes I wonder, are ads as we know it, dead? Everyone hates it, has real usability impact and security risks. Didnt get the email though...

Let me provide you with some insight into your bewonderment: 1) I work in the Ad technology industry and i can tell you with confidence that ads are far from dead. The human logic of "We hate it, so it must not be working" is understandable but condradicting the actual data entirely. I look at this data on a daily basis and i can tell you that Ads have increased by a LOT in the last 10 years. They are also working fo…

Well there's also the scenario of someone not running an ad-blocker and unsuspectingly getting served ransom ware which results in you know actual pirate like behavior of arrrrsking for bitcoin ransom to decrypt you data.

I urge everyone to turn on ad-blockers and stop this security madness stop. Additionally I urge people to write to their congressman/woman (or whatever means you have) and demand that the add-serving people should be held liable for security issues they cause, hefty fines prefered (similar to the tobacco industry being held liable for cancer they cause)

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

jpatokal wrote: post #60
ctpide wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that they can't - it's probably more that they don't want to and think they shouldn't. Show me one Google Service that actually offers decent support (apart form their more recent adventures as Google Fibre ISP).

Easy: All of the Google for Work products, namely Google Maps, Cloud Platform, Search, Android or Chrome. https://www.google.com/work/ Yes, they're all paid services and some require you to explicitly purchase support on top, but in exchange, you get access to engineers who can go down to the source code and actually fix issues. (Disclaimer: I'm one of these engineers.)

Have you ever used the customer support?

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by adsense_is_crap »

tonmoy wrote: post #102
adsense_is_crap wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hear, hear! It truly amazes me, though I can confirm witnessing them (old and new users to the internet mostly), that there actual people who click on "One Weird Tip to Lose Ten Pounds"... But even they eventually learn like the rest of us to be wary of them from what I have learnt. My conjecture is that ultimately when new internet user growth rate slows enough, ads will no longer be a viable and naturally die out!…

I don't know, I do see a few relevant ad sometimes these days. I found the shoes I am wearing from an ad, and they are neither good nor bad, but the ad did serve its purpose of notifying me that a product of my liking was available.

Of course, not to say you cannot be a victim of consumerist determinism.

The ads I get are terrible because I do not use social media for the ad networks to build a consumer profile like yours.

I am autistic though so may be immune to ads or maybe the ad networks have given up on me and think I am a morbidly obese man? lol

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