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Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by ungzd »

elorant wrote: post #55
spiderfarmer wrote: post #9

According to their terms, Google can cancel any account at any time without having to offer an explanation. They also have a history of not replying to publisher problems at all. The whole 'Official' Adsense forum is run by volunteers and it's near impossible to speak to a real person. Even if they are hacked and thousands of accounts are cancelled I don't think Google will respond. I would so, so love to see a big p…

The only one who could run an AdSense alternative is Facebook. I'd love to see them going that way but I seriously doubt they'd bother. There's too much friction to support such a platform and with ad blockers gaining traction it might become unsustainable pretty soon.

Facebook is against web outside Facebook.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by SyneRyder »

t0pz wrote: post #59
mirimir wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So far, one can still uncheck the "Allow some non-intrusive advertising" box in Filter Preferences.

aside from the fact that less than 2% of users actually do this, it is still quite arbitrary how they determine intrusive and non-intrusive. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt to improve on this. But the amount of trust given to Adblock Plus is ridiculous. They are a money-grubbing extortionist company that is in no way improving the advertising landscape at the moment. They are just taking full advantage of the…

While I see your point on the Acceptable Ads shakedown, the reason I chose Adblock Plus was because of the Flattr Plus integration, which seems like the first attempt to really fix things (ie sites that let you block ads in return for a Flattr micropayment). I avoided using an ad-blocker (and generally viewed people who used them as selfish cheapskates) until ads became a malware vector. ABP with Flattr Plus seemed the best alternative to block ads & protect my computer but still ensure publishers are compensated.

Incidentally, thanks for posting, even though it incurred a karma hit for you - good to hear both sides. HN has too much groupthink sometimes.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by mau »

ungzd wrote: post #81
elorant wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only one who could run an AdSense alternative is Facebook. I'd love to see them going that way but I seriously doubt they'd bother. There's too much friction to support such a platform and with ad blockers gaining traction it might become unsustainable pretty soon.

Facebook is against web outside Facebook.

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network

FB Audience Network is already in Beta for Mobile Web [1], they might investigate to expand this business for Desktop Web too.

[1] https://developers.facebook.com/docs/audience-network/mobile...

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by ocean3 »

tmptmp wrote: post #61
t0pz wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree with you on point 1 as i work primarily with non-intrusive ad formats with content that is as relative as possible to the user. There are definitely many "bad" ads and i hate them myself but there is a mismatch between what we perceive and what the data tells us. And this is often the case in Advertising. Consider this: You see an annoying commercial on TV about Butter over and over again, over the co…

>>You see an annoying commercial on TV about Butter over and over again, over the course of a month. These are quite intrusive and you certainly wouldn't want to see it again, if you had the choice. The very big difference between the TV ad and the intrusive web ad is: the web ad can run arbitrary (potentially harmful) code on my computer. So whatever you say adblocks are very important from end-user's POV. I don't w…

TV ad might not run arbitrary code. But its very annoying as well. Hence lots of pirating.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by adsense_is_crap »

jasonwen wrote: post #17

This year we will stop using AdSense altogether. No support at all and the payouts have been declining every year. With the increase of ad blockers, even less encouraging to use ads in general. Sometimes I wonder, are ads as we know it, dead? Everyone hates it, has real usability impact and security risks. Didnt get the email though...

Hear, hear!

It truly amazes me, though I can confirm witnessing them (old and new users to the internet mostly), that there actual people who click on "One Weird Tip to Lose Ten Pounds"...

But even they eventually learn like the rest of us to be wary of them from what I have learnt.

My conjecture is that ultimately when new internet user growth rate slows enough, ads will no longer be a viable and naturally die out! The alternative, is that nothing changes, and that ads continue to derive value by consusensus of excessively consumerist and stupid people similar to the cult classic film, Idiocracy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by adsense_is_crap »

t0pz wrote: post #53
awalton wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what kind of hard stuff you're on, but a claim that AdBlock Plus has a keylogger is a pretty damned bold one, and you're going to need to back that up with some heavy duty proof. Here's the codebase[1], feel free to point out where in there it is so you can be headline news on HN/Reddit/{Insert News Outlet} tomorrow. Maybe you will be the one to finally kill AdBlock Plus, wouldn't you like that? 1: https…

github does not reveal the part of their code that is hosted on Eyeo's servers. While i certainly can't prove that they do, you also can't use their repo to determine what else they do in the background, leaving it up to "trust" again, as usual. Also, i couldn't care less about some headline. I would like a discussion, not e-pride

By that reasoning, I shouldn't use the internet because it does not describe a web of trust system that would meet secure-by design properties that you demand (Phil Zimmerman, the creator of PGP describes this in theory though)

More fundamentally, your claim is not falsifiable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability

i.e. you can't claim something true on the basis of the other person not being able to reasonably have a way of disproving it!

edit: upvoted you because you probably are on smoking something and these people are picking on you for it

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by peter303 »

jasonwen wrote: post #17

This year we will stop using AdSense altogether. No support at all and the payouts have been declining every year. With the increase of ad blockers, even less encouraging to use ads in general. Sometimes I wonder, are ads as we know it, dead? Everyone hates it, has real usability impact and security risks. Didnt get the email though...

As 90% of google revenues, they should worry about comments like this. Their arrogance is killing their golden egg.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by ManlyBread »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #33
t0pz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me provide you with some insight into your bewonderment: 1) I work in the Ad technology industry and i can tell you with confidence that ads are far from dead. The human logic of "We hate it, so it must not be working" is understandable but condradicting the actual data entirely. I look at this data on a daily basis and i can tell you that Ads have increased by a LOT in the last 10 years. They are also working fo…

>First of all, adblock has destroyed a significant number of small bloggers, content-writers, and other publishers, as especially those were struggling to stay above water. People used to do that for free because they cared about the content they were writing, rather than because it was making their daily bread. I distinctly remember the quality of writing during this time being much higher than it is today.

I concur, in my opinion people writing with money in mind usually optimize towards reaching the largest amount of people possible while people who don't focus on the idea itself.

Re: Reports of cancellation of AdSense accounts

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Post by amluto »

This is off topic, but: do any of the ad networks permit placing the ad script in an iframe, either sandboxed or with a separate origin? The fact that the ad network gets all your secrets and can (itself or via malicious ads) compromise your site or your users' browsing experience (location.href changes, anyone) is pathetic.
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