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Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by ci5er »

PieterH wrote: post #28
ci5er wrote: post #23

Memento Mori. I want to simply declare that the iMatix state machine generator (Libero) and cross-platform library(ies) (SMT/SFL) saved my project/company from certain destruction in 1996. And I never had the opportunity to thank you/him/them for that. I'm a C guy, so admittedly old-fashioned, but I still use that FSM generator language more than twice/year. FSMs rock (I came from circuits) and this is the best busin…

My pleasure. Libero and SFL were my first open source projects and I'm glad they were useful.

Oh, separately. Libero rocks. That is all.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by ci5er »

PieterH wrote: post #28
ci5er wrote: post #23

Memento Mori. I want to simply declare that the iMatix state machine generator (Libero) and cross-platform library(ies) (SMT/SFL) saved my project/company from certain destruction in 1996. And I never had the opportunity to thank you/him/them for that. I'm a C guy, so admittedly old-fashioned, but I still use that FSM generator language more than twice/year. FSMs rock (I came from circuits) and this is the best busin…

My pleasure. Libero and SFL were my first open source projects and I'm glad they were useful.

I want you to know, that at every level, for me, you were loved, received and admired. I don't know the controls of this system well enough to be able to PM you that, but you should know this... Thank you.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by harryf »

seletskiy wrote: post #27
sdfin wrote: post #3

The proximity of death turns many people philosophical. I like reading what people think when looking at life from that perspective. I also enjoyed reading an article which was posted in HN some years ago, about the more common regrets of people on their deathbeds: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-fiv...

Personally, that behaviour strikes me most. Why, only on the edge of dying, people suddenly becomes "philosophical" and aware of their life and surroundings? Yet, it's obvious for all of us, that everyone now living will be dead after several decades. And no one seems to be really caring. For whatever reason people express strong grief about dead or soon-to-be-dead in the manner, that they by themselves will never ev…

> I just don't get it, how it happens, that we have world based on the cult of death and yet just everyone living in the illusion, that their existence will never end?

Think it's all about where your attention is. We've made a world full of noise and distractions to occupy our attention, keep us from getting bored. As a result we pay no attention to our selves.

At least not until you get older and learn to filter out the noise. Priorities.

I guess nearness of death brings the attention to where it needs to be - priorities suddenly and radically altered

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by suddenseizure »

PieterH wrote: post #7
yadongwen wrote: post #5

Not sure what kind of cancer you have. There are so much progress in this field and I believe many types of cancer can be controlled now. My mom has NSCLC. It's been two years and it's very likely she'll be just fine in the next a few years. Please do not give up..

I wish you strength and courage. Spend time with your mom and tell her how much you love her, every chance you get. My own cancer is of the bile duct, spread to my lungs after five years' silence. I've accepted as fact that it's terminal, there is only "when", no "if". And even "when" is out of my hands, it's down to unreadable factors in my DNA and environment.

I wish you strength and courage too. My wife was recently diagnosed with a brain tumor (had no idea until I woke up to her having a seizure in bed next to me) and my previous world, all our plans, have shattered. The horrible thing about brain cancer is that radiation degrades you mentally very quickly. So we are thinking of opting for chemo only for now. Hoping that the quality vs quantity of life trade-off is worth it. Praying for a miracle cure before radiation is necessary.

We were planning to have kids in the next year or so. Now we're doing fertility preservation in case the chemo makes her infertile. I'm wondering if I can cope as a single dad if things come to that. I have a good paying tech job but everything in the Bay Area is so expensive, especially with kids.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by seletskiy »

gph wrote: post #29
seletskiy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, that behaviour strikes me most. Why, only on the edge of dying, people suddenly becomes "philosophical" and aware of their life and surroundings? Yet, it's obvious for all of us, that everyone now living will be dead after several decades. And no one seems to be really caring. For whatever reason people express strong grief about dead or soon-to-be-dead in the manner, that they by themselves will never ev…

I think at the end of life people reflect more on themselves and their own personal beliefs on how the world works. But when we are living in the thick of it we live much more within each other and the greater whole of society because we have to. That's how we survive. We give up some of our brainspace to ideas and systems that are built communally, both on a local/familial level and on an entire social level. In oth…

Living for greater whole of society yet not thinking about own mortality looks like moving in wrong direction for me. They are not contrary lifestyles. The only problem with highest priority we all having right now as a humanity is very short lifespan and mortality.

I do not see much difference in dying in the next 12 month or next 40 years.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by Trundle »

ekianjo wrote: post #9
sdfin wrote: post #3

The proximity of death turns many people philosophical. I like reading what people think when looking at life from that perspective. I also enjoyed reading an article which was posted in HN some years ago, about the more common regrets of people on their deathbeds: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-fiv...

Regrets on deathbeds are kind of a myth. Most people did actually make the conscious choices throughout their lives not to do the things they regret when things are over. So i would not give it too much credence unless their life is cut very short when they barely had a chance to do anything.

I honestly don't see what you mean by myth. A choice being conscious doesn't mean it was optimal.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by danr4 »

PieterH wrote: post #7
yadongwen wrote: post #5

Not sure what kind of cancer you have. There are so much progress in this field and I believe many types of cancer can be controlled now. My mom has NSCLC. It's been two years and it's very likely she'll be just fine in the next a few years. Please do not give up..

I wish you strength and courage. Spend time with your mom and tell her how much you love her, every chance you get. My own cancer is of the bile duct, spread to my lungs after five years' silence. I've accepted as fact that it's terminal, there is only "when", no "if". And even "when" is out of my hands, it's down to unreadable factors in my DNA and environment.

Not sure if handing out advice is appropriate. But what the heck, nobody mentioned cannabis oil treatment, so here I am mentioning it. It probably won't turn the "when" to an "if", but is worth investigating to see maybe it the treament is something you would like to try. I've researched quite a bit and it seems to have helped (relatively) delay the "when" to quite a lot of people.

I personally find it hard accepting things I'm told to do or that most people have been doing for ages (i.e I don't use shampoo, I sleep on the floor, no commercial toothpaste etc..). I'm not a naturalism fanatic too, it's just things I researched and resonated with me, I tried them, and I liked it.

I wish you tranquility either way.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by danr4 »

PieterH wrote: post #7
yadongwen wrote: post #5

Not sure what kind of cancer you have. There are so much progress in this field and I believe many types of cancer can be controlled now. My mom has NSCLC. It's been two years and it's very likely she'll be just fine in the next a few years. Please do not give up..

I wish you strength and courage. Spend time with your mom and tell her how much you love her, every chance you get. My own cancer is of the bile duct, spread to my lungs after five years' silence. I've accepted as fact that it's terminal, there is only "when", no "if". And even "when" is out of my hands, it's down to unreadable factors in my DNA and environment.

Not sure if handing out advices is appropriate. But what the heck, nobody mentioned cannabis oil, so here I am mentioning it. It probably won't turn the "when" to an "if", but is worth investigating to see maybe it the treament is something you would like to try.

I personally find it hard accepting things I'm told to do or that most people have been doing for ages (i.e I don't use shampoo, I sleep on the floor, no commercial toothpaste etc..). I'm not a naturalism fanatic too, it's just things I researched and resonated with me, I tried them, and I liked it.

I wish you tranquility either way.

Re: Living, in Limbo

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Post by vidarh »

PieterH wrote: post #28
ci5er wrote: post #23

Memento Mori. I want to simply declare that the iMatix state machine generator (Libero) and cross-platform library(ies) (SMT/SFL) saved my project/company from certain destruction in 1996. And I never had the opportunity to thank you/him/them for that. I'm a C guy, so admittedly old-fashioned, but I still use that FSM generator language more than twice/year. FSMs rock (I came from circuits) and this is the best busin…

My pleasure. Libero and SFL were my first open source projects and I'm glad they were useful.

They were great. I wrote a caching NNTP server around that time, which was manually multiplexed initially, and finding Libero and seeing how much easier it was to handle the state transitions influenced how I saw the use of code generation. I've been a fan ever since.
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