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Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Well it's finally the year of the Linux Desktop.

Actually, I feel like this is the one instance where saying "GNU" instead of Linux is completely accurate, since WSL is not even running the Linux kernel but GNU userland tools...

I wonder what Stallman would have to say about that? We've come around full circle to GNU/NT.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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I haven't had any problems with macOS stability lately. Has anyone else experienced what the author describes? Around me Windows 10 has crashed more than macOS. but Windows 10 is really stable too.

I've never had Win10 crash on me, nor have I macOS. On the application front though, I have found the Win programs I use crash or hang far less often than their macOS counterparts.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Assuming you're an employee, this is a feature. Your old employer probably doesn't want you taking your email with you, and rightly so - and your new employer very likely doesn't want you bringing your old email with you, for exactly the same reason. So... there you go. What's the problem? I suggest embracing this rather than worrying about it.

It is about the configuration of Outlook, not about the email if I understood that correctly.

Right - but why would you care? You get a PC, and it has Outlook, and it's set up to work with their system. Then you leave/they sack you. You get a new job. They give you a different PC. It has Outlook... and it's set up to work with their system. Rinse and repeat.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Another thought: when people complain about the state of Linux email clients, what is so good about the Windows alternatives? Office productivity suites, I get it. But email clients all suck. Mutt's mantra is so true, at least they're honest about sucking less. I believe Linux is a 100% of the time platform because the choice (again, user choice) to run minimal terminal apps means like less than average 50% memory ut…

Don't write off Outlook without a second thought. It's big with loads of features, yes - but that's what's good about it. If all you need to do is plain text email, sure, Mutt is fine. If you deal with a large amount of email, calendar appointments, tasks, contacts, etc, in a professional role, nothing beats Outlook. There's a reason it's so popular.

Going from one job using a "startup-y" Gmail company account to another job using a "corporate-y" Outlook solution was a tough transition. Outlook has loads of features, but the UI simplicity (relatively speaking) of Gmail makes most of them unnecessary in the first place, plus it was a little less frustrating to use. Meanwhile, Gmail still had calendar events, reminders, google drive integration, etc. in ways that seem on-par with features in Outlook.

Disclaimer: I'm not a PM/executive who has to juggle meetings and communication all day, so maybe I just ask less of email.

Edit: clarity

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Turn the indexing off in Thunderbird and it is still quite a usable email client for me and I have recently done a bit of a tour of the alternatives. It hits the sweet spot for me. Mutt is awesome but I have to deal with too much html email.

I pretty much run the same stack for email/editor/docs on every platform. For the most part Windows, OSX and Linux are interchangeable for me which is a nice place to be. I just find Linux gets in the way a lot less for my purposes.

Every platform has advantages and a slightly different mix of applications that make it suit some users more than others. I can certainly understand swapping between a Mac and Windows for iOS and Windows development or games and back to Linux for web/server stuff. But being stuck on a particular platform because of an email client would bother me.

I think it is great that this stuff is running on Windows but it bothers me that people feel they are trapped on Windows because of their email client. That seems so dated.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is, that Outlook sends crappy emails in the default setting. And since nobody changes those everybody is sending crappy emails. Also, we are talking about email. Maybe it is good for an address book, calendar, tasks, etc. pp. But as an email client it is awful, also because it is as complicated as mutt but actually less powerful. My biggest complained about Outlook is actually a bug in their HTML engine. Fr…

This is baffling. How could something as important as font rendering not be fixed?

Probably because everyone at MS uses MS products and they all have calibri installed...

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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This is tangential but my primary interest is being able to natively ssh into a Windows machine.

I know options exist today but I would love to see native support and it's oh-so-close.

Would be great to be able to finally script things to copy stuff over to the Windows box such as LE certs.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is about the configuration of Outlook, not about the email if I understood that correctly.

Right - but why would you care? You get a PC, and it has Outlook, and it's set up to work with their system. Then you leave/they sack you. You get a new job. They give you a different PC. It has Outlook... and it's set up to work with their system. Rinse and repeat.

You miss the point. By config she means whether to display html mail as html, whether to display images from external sources, her language (for spell checking), her preferred set of fonts etc

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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For me, modern virtualization has gotten so good that it's my preferred solution. kvm, libvirt, virtio, and PCI passthrough et al have opened up a whole new world of possibilities. Currently still requires fairly specific hardware and kind of a pain to figure out how to make it work, but it's already very impressive.

This is still really cool though.

Re: Running I3 Window Manager on Ubuntu for Windows

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Well it's finally the year of the Linux Desktop.

Actually, I feel like this is the one instance where saying "GNU" instead of Linux is completely accurate, since WSL is not even running the Linux kernel but GNU userland tools... I wonder what Stallman would have to say about that? We've come around full circle to GNU/NT.

If I'm not mistaken, the view is,

a) don't want to provide nice tools to windows users because then they'll no longer have the need to switch to a libre system

b) do want to provide nice tools to windows users because then they'll get a taste of how liberating freedom is

obviously there is a balance there, and I think GNU/NT might be a bit too far into entrenching-the-user for his tastes, though I can't speak for him obviously.

It seems there is no political note on his site for the announcement of ubuntu-on-windows.

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