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Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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Good to see I2P get some attention here. For those who don't know about I2P: * Anonymity network similar to TOR in some ways, but rather than focusing on getting someone out to the internet anonymously, I2P is a low-latency mix network with no out proxies. See: https://ritter.vg/blog-mix_and_onion_networks.html * Virtually every I2P router relays traffic, unlike TOR the network is very "flat". Directory servers are r…

To clarify, since modernity has stripped us of patience: "low latency" here means on the order of 1500ms, not tens of ms, as most people expect. As opposed to tens of seconds or minutes in mix message protocols.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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Who is zzz? :)

zzz is our BDFL. If you really would like to know, come meet the I2P folks at 33C3 or potentially HOPE if you live in NA. CCC is better since I2P typically has a table there.

Will you be around for bsides lv or defcon?

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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post #32
post #27

Good to see I2P get some attention here. For those who don't know about I2P: * Anonymity network similar to TOR in some ways, but rather than focusing on getting someone out to the internet anonymously, I2P is a low-latency mix network with no out proxies. See: https://ritter.vg/blog-mix_and_onion_networks.html * Virtually every I2P router relays traffic, unlike TOR the network is very "flat". Directory servers are r…

To clarify, since modernity has stripped us of patience: "low latency" here means on the order of 1500ms, not tens of ms, as most people expect. As opposed to tens of seconds or minutes in mix message protocols.

Hah, yes. Mixminion is a good example of a high latency mixnet. There has been some talk of adding a high latency option to I2P as well at some point.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify, since modernity has stripped us of patience: "low latency" here means on the order of 1500ms, not tens of ms, as most people expect. As opposed to tens of seconds or minutes in mix message protocols.

Hah, yes. Mixminion is a good example of a high latency mixnet. There has been some talk of adding a high latency option to I2P as well at some point.

That's what bote is for.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I ran a i2p router for year, mostly because I didn't mind. This is a kind of a hen-egg-problem, I guess. There is not any content in i2p I'm aware off besides a torrent site. And I probably don't want to know what the content is I'm not aware of.

While I think this is in theory much cooler than tor, it's a way less practical, i guess.

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I2P interest and development has grown with the direct monetization path of more anonymous cryptocurrencies that have attempted to partner with I2P over the years, such as Monero There have been other cryptocurrencies that had the ethos of being anonymous, such as "anoncoin" but functioned exactly like bitcoin and never was able to develop their obfuscation layer It is all still in its infancy

Has it? I had not heard of Monero. You got stuff I can read? I am curious about the I2P culture, if you are in the know.

Monero has got an I2P router in C++ as one of their projects: https://github.com/monero-project/kovri

If you want some general information on Monero then this is a good talk on Bitcoin privacy and on what Monero is and does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVlQE-ObEXk

Re: I2P: Invisible Internet Protocol

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I2P developer here, feel free to ask me any questions.

Thanks for contributing to I2P! Do you have any thoughts on HORNET? Could I2P benefit from a more stateless routing mechanism as opposed to tunnels in the far future? Are any of the devs going to defcon this year? I tried to get a small meetup going last year in the privacy village but no turnout, would love to make something official. I'm working on Go implementation here: https://github.com/hkparker/go-i2p . Haven'…

Some of the Monero Kovri developers are known, public people, there's no problem with that at all if you choose to be public. There's really no longer as much of a stigma for people who are working on privacy projects:)
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