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Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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I would rather have a true GNU Linux phone/mobile computer...

What do you think of this? https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

I've thought about getting a Pyra and then trying to use it for regular phone calls as well. What's not clear to me is what the landscape is for telephone software running on Linux that directly accesses the sim card. Does anyone know? I recall there being a libgsm, but a quick search isn't pulling up much information. I also recall there being at least two Raspberry Pi phone projects, this being one of them:

https://learn.adafruit.com/piphone-a-raspberry-pi-based-cell...

The software for this project can be found on github:

https://github.com/climberhunt/PiPhone

Candidly, the code there looks pretty simple. Most of it is using pygame for the graphics and then just sending serial commands to the modem. It looks like most of the complicated functionality is just part of the chip.

Anyway, yes, I've thought about doing a phone implementation on top of some kind of Linux distribution and Pyra was high on that list. If someone else has some information or knows of other projects that have done this, please let us know.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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I assume the reach of HN means more than a few people who are reading this thread are currently working with telemetry or tracking data. Yet rarely do I see any posts offering an insider's perspective of how it is used. Obviously there are privacy and ethical barriers, not to mention NDAs. But without the opposing view these discussions are always heavily slanted toward the "data collection is bad" opinion with no ev…

Google tells you what it's doing with the data in the terms of service, though. What more do you need to know from a whistleblower that isn't already disclosed?

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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Says the guy using a free gmail.com email address.

Personal attacks, which that crosses into, are not allowed on HN. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12016316 and marked it off-topic.

So pointing out hypocrisy and tainted credibility is not allowed on HN. I see. Neckbeard logical fallacy # 82

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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post #215
post #210

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Personal attacks, which that crosses into, are not allowed on HN. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12016316 and marked it off-topic.

So pointing out hypocrisy and tainted credibility is not allowed on HN. I see. Neckbeard logical fallacy # 82

We're all hypocrites, so getting personally nasty about it is self-refuting.

There's nothing that matters here that requires personal disrespect to point out.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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I was typing in a mac terminal, and needed to google something unrelated. Only to find google auto suggested on a very obscure command I just typed into the terminal. I'm almost certain keystrokes are logged when the chrome browser is running on a mac.

Or... confirmation bias.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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What do you think of this? https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/

I've thought about getting a Pyra and then trying to use it for regular phone calls as well. What's not clear to me is what the landscape is for telephone software running on Linux that directly accesses the sim card. Does anyone know? I recall there being a libgsm, but a quick search isn't pulling up much information. I also recall there being at least two Raspberry Pi phone projects, this being one of them: https:/…

These were the best I could find in the short time I had.

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/how-to-send-receive...

http://www.smssolutions.net/tutorials/gsm/receivesmsat/

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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What is this referring to?

> Facebook wants to know why you didn’t publish that status update you started writing. > Unfortunately, the code in your browser that powers Facebook still knows what you typed—even if you decide not to publish it.* It turns out that the things you explicitly choose not to share aren't entirely private. http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/1...

Wasn't that story thoroughly debunked? The data flows didn't support it, and Facebook denied it.
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