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Empire is the wrong term. It's misleading, it's fraught, it leads to lazy thinking, facile notions and comparisons, and can facilitate unjustified anti-Americanism on one side, cavalier adventurism on another (think Cheney, neocons, AEI), and perhaps isolationism in a current sense ("we're an empire but we shouldn't be"). "Superpower" is better.

What constitutes an empire though, the US is more than twice the size of the Roman Empire at it's peak. Surely that is not an empire? It also influences other countries to an extent which is similar to other empires like the British did. It invades countries to keep trade going, and it's companies dominate the world much like the companies of the British empire did. The only difference is that the US has finished exp…

The definition of empire is a group of states or countries ruled by a single supreme authority.

All other uses of the term are metaphorical. We can talk about the McDonald's hamburger empire.

When we talk about the American Empire, we're also using the term metaphorically, because think what you will of the US, but it doesn't rule as a supreme authority over anything but a few islands. It may have friends, allies, interests, influence, bargaining power, but it has no subjects, no subjugated peoples. It may have largely founded what is now the world's economic and security order after WWII, but those are all voluntary.

The problem is that the overlap between superpower and empire makes the term empire confusing in the American case. "Powerful like an empire" and "an empire" are very different.

When we talk or think about the "American Empire", we seek similarities and ignore differences with the Roman Empire, European colonial empires, even the Athenian Empire or Soviet Empire. It makes it sound like the US can tell other countries what to do as it pleases, that the US rules over others. That's a very important mistake, even a dangerous mistake. Allies are not subjects. When a country asks the US military to leave, it leaves. See the Philippines as a good example (and further back as an example of the bad old days, when the US was briefly interested in having a real empire).

Today's US is an empire in the sense that Microsoft is an empire -- it is an empire of the willing who can leave whenever they like.

And if you can leave whenever you'd like, it's not a real empire.

Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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I'm interested in walking the quant path. Just how high is the bar? And would there be an equivalent project that would put a prospective quant to the top of the resume pile?

I've attached two pdf's on what you should expect. The latter was the take home an old company used to give quants as a test. If you can answer the questions on teh practicum then you probably have enough math skills to start as a quant. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1iikX5PwNx4d2dKQ3FT...

From "Max Dama on Automated Trading": > Work shall set you free

The English translation of Arbeit macht frei? Really?

Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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I'm interested in walking the quant path. Just how high is the bar? And would there be an equivalent project that would put a prospective quant to the top of the resume pile?

I've attached two pdf's on what you should expect. The latter was the take home an old company used to give quants as a test. If you can answer the questions on teh practicum then you probably have enough math skills to start as a quant. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1iikX5PwNx4d2dKQ3FT...

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Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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Empire is the wrong term. It's misleading, it's fraught, it leads to lazy thinking, facile notions and comparisons, and can facilitate unjustified anti-Americanism on one side, cavalier adventurism on another (think Cheney, neocons, AEI), and perhaps isolationism in a current sense ("we're an empire but we shouldn't be"). "Superpower" is better.

What constitutes an empire though, the US is more than twice the size of the Roman Empire at it's peak. Surely that is not an empire? It also influences other countries to an extent which is similar to other empires like the British did. It invades countries to keep trade going, and it's companies dominate the world much like the companies of the British empire did. The only difference is that the US has finished exp…

To quickly take on comparisons with the British Empire --

War: True, the US engages in war, and the British Empire engaged in war. But so have many countries that were no empires. When the US engages in war, it leaves and tries to set up a gov't as the new authority. This has worked well (Japan, Germany, etc.) and not so well (Iraq, South Korea initially).

Companies: Imperial British companies literally captured their markets -- they had their own armies! The British East India Company for example came to rule much of the subcontinent, with their own soldiers! Subjects of British imperial rule were told what to trade. They might have done well for themselves sometimes (or been devastated at other times), but in any case the relationship was clear.

Global leadership: The US took the mantle as global leader from the British. This wasn't desired. Indeed after WWI the US refused to play leader. Some historians believe that WWII could have been avoided if the US would have fulfilled its duty as most powerful to provide leadership.

After WWII the US became serious about being a leader, by which I mean taking the initiative on issues of global coordination, both security-wise and financial. This is another reason the US is so easily confused with an empire. The UN, IMF, World Bank, NATO, Bretton Woods, these were largely American initiatives, but they were not imperial dictats.

Again, the importance in my way of thinking is that countries with relationships with the US are not subjects of the US. That is the key distinction that must never be forgotten.

A question: In your way of thinking, is the EU an empire?

Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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A crystal ball. Seriously now, this is like asking: What methods do you propose for building a perpetuum mobile? This Universe does not allow for the future to be predicted, like it doesn't allow for the laws of TD to be broken. All the predictions of growth/decline you read/hear from people are just educated guesses, nothing else. Some of them might get lucky with their predictions, some of them might not, but let's…

This is a strange reply. You're saying we can't understand the world through science? Physical laws like the laws of thermodynamics are methods for predicting the future that we obtain by inferring them from what we've observed in the past. You can argue that particular domains (like the global economy) are nearly impossible to predict with much accuracy because we are unable to observe many of the driving variables…

> You're saying we can't understand the world through science?

We're having a hard enough time as it is understanding the physical, inanimate world, when it comes to applying "science" to human endeavors the results are much less certain, approaching crystal-ball-reasoning. People did try in the past to do just that, i.e. to make scientific "sense" about what happened in the past with us, humans, with the hidden aim of trying to predict what will happen in the future. Karl Popper had a really good book explaining why that was a terrible idea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Poverty_of_Historicism):

> The book is a treatise on scientific method in the social sciences.[2] Popper defines historicism as: “an approach to the social sciences which assumes that historical prediction is their principal aim…”.[3] “The belief… that it is the task of the social sciences to lay bare the law of evolution of society in order to foretell its future… might be described as the central Historicist doctrine.”.[4]

> Popper’s criticisms of the poverty of the idea of historical prediction can broadly be split into three areas: fundamental problems with the idea itself, common inconsistencies in the arguments of historicists, and the negative practical effects of implementing Historicist ideas.

> iii) Individual human action or reaction can never be predicted with certainty, therefore neither can the future: “the human factor is the ultimately uncertain and wayward element in social life and in all social institutions. Indeed this is the element which ultimately cannot be completely controlled by institutions (as Spinoza first saw); for every attempt at controlling it completely must lead to tyranny; which means, to the omnipotence of the human factor – the whims of a few men, or even one.”.

And, to put it more generally, we do know that the Sun will probably die in the next 4-5 billion years, that is science based on induction, i.e. we saw that other stars similar to the Sun have lived that long in the past and so we expect the Sun to have the same lifespan. But this is not prediction nor forecasting the future, is really a very good guess. Science itself is a really nice and educated guess. The problem is that we're much better at guessing what will happen to the Sun, let's say, compared to what will happen to the stock exchange in the next 10 years or to who the president of Rwanda will be in 15 to 20 years.

David Hume has put down in writing the issue with induction better than a guy like me could ever do. From here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction#David_Hum...):

> Only through previous observation can it be predicted, inductively, what will actually happen with the balls. In general, it is not necessary that causal relation in the future resemble causal relations in the past, as it is always conceivable otherwise

Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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Demographics. Africa, Nigeria in particular, looks like China and India of decades past.

Perhaps, but Nigeria is a disaster waiting to happen. Their economy is dangerously dependent on crude petroleum exports[0] (second only to Saudi Arabia, I guess). This, along with them having destroyed 95% of their forests[1] in the last few decades, and having an expected population growth from 180→400+ million by 2040, is absolutely unsustainable and will be depressing to watch unfold. [0] http://atlas.media.mit.ed…

Late response. I have to reply.

Yes. China and India (and Pakistan and Brazil and...) are disasters in progress. Yet there are encouraging signs.

I choose to hope that Nigeria and others will improve their lots as they climb the economic ladder. Their people certainly deserve it.

Re: Investing Returns on the S&P500

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It would be great to see the long term results as compared to buying less risky assets, like treasuries. It's not a question of whether the market's returns are positive over the long run, but whether they are positive enough to justify the additional risk.
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