From the sounds of it the man is former military and has been mistreated by the justice system. I presume his "record" will soon be clean. We should find this man a job inside the criminal justice system. Would he consider working in a police department?
Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
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Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#92Hollywood, maybe? Netflix made a series on Steven Avery that created an enormous amount of attention to that case. Him being in the army, coming back to his country, being arrested for a activity that he didn't do, spending 11 years behind the bars and finally being released as an innocent man is a great story to tell. Since hollywood is running out of stories these days that could be an option. Hell, maybe Netflix w…
It might be a naive question, do you know if Steven Avery or his family came away from those TV shows with some money?
Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#93Can you please update the OP to include this:
http://GoFundMe.com/RayJennings
Put it on its own line like that, near the top.
You have many up-votes (probably thousands of readers), but only a few donations. This might be because the URL is easy to miss.
A lot of people skim large posts.
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#94You succeeded in getting a lawyer to take on this case(okay, he was your father, but still.) Now try doing the same with getting a top notch PR person with experience getting television exposure. 1) Reach out to top PR consultants 2) Explain this story to them in a paragraph 3) Tell them you need their help in helping get his story out 4) Big part of getting his story out would involve pushing his gofundme page.
I hope you do not take this suggestion too seriously. He didn't want to be convicted and he may not want the entire rest of his life to be dependent upon him telling his story and spilling his guts in public to pay the bills. It is one thing if he WANTS to tell his story. But maybe he just wants his damn life back. In which case, this could be just a way to add insult to injury. I would try to give him options for ge…
Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be a naive question, do you know if Steven Avery or his family came away from those TV shows with some money?
Don't know those details but his lawyers obviously worked with Netflix on creation of the series. It would be hard to imagine that there was no compensation involved.
Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope you do not take this suggestion too seriously. He didn't want to be convicted and he may not want the entire rest of his life to be dependent upon him telling his story and spilling his guts in public to pay the bills. It is one thing if he WANTS to tell his story. But maybe he just wants his damn life back. In which case, this could be just a way to add insult to injury. I would try to give him options for ge…
"trying to go this route without asking him" - who said anything about not asking him? Seems pretty obvious that this would be the implied first step.
Being homeless has given me loads of firsthand experience with how cavalier people are about completely disregarding the human dignity and agency of individuals they view as charity cases. So, I felt compelled to speak up and say "Please, don't view this as necessarily a great idea. There is more at stake here than money. Please, don't sell this man out because of his current financially desperate straits. That can make it impossible for him to get the life he desires and it can be done to him without his permission."
And the degree to which people here are shouting me down suggests to me that, no, most folks here wouldn't ask. They think it's a great idea. I am a lone voice on the side of respecting his dignity, personal choice and right to privacy first and foremost. And I find it baffling that people can claim well "Obviously, we wouldn't do any such thing" while doing exactly that thing. I have always found that baffling. But here it is again.
Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#97Since you're in Los Angeles, you might try reaching out to Homeboy Industries: http://www.homeboyindustries.org/ They specialize in helping get folks back on their feet with job training. They have a bakery program, a line of salsa, solar panel installation training, etc. They hire ex-gang and previously incarcerated men and women. Disclosure: I have enjoyed the salsa.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Goddamn that's scary that this man's exoneration depended on a chance viewing of Dateline...Props to you...my initial reaction to this post (I hadn't seen your other appeals to HN) were that this sounded too good to be true, but even the stories and accounts about Mr. Jennings that were pro-status-quo were alarmingly flimsy. I don't have faith that the justice system will naturally get things right, but I do have a g…
Sadly, this case has deeply shaken my confidence in the criminal-justice system.
- Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. (Associate Justice for the United States Supreme Court)
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#99(Coincidentally, the accused murderer who was the focus of Serial's first season, has just been granted a new trial, according to an announcement just 5 minutes ago http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us/serial-adnan-syed-new-t...)
Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
"trying to go this route without asking him" - who said anything about not asking him? Seems pretty obvious that this would be the implied first step.
I have spent 4.5 years homeless. Prior to that, I was an award winning student, and then a respected military wife and homeschooling mom. (Edit: Oh, yeah, I also worked for a Fortune 500 company for over 5 years.) Being homeless has given me loads of firsthand experience with how cavalier people are about completely disregarding the human dignity and agency of individuals they view as charity cases. So, I felt compel…
Also, his definition of dignity could be not being homeless or dependent on his kids. If that were true, it would be in contrast to your view on human dignity.