This page is a good example of what's wrong with HN. Someone publishes their open source experiment in minimal browser UI design, and everyone shits on it for not being a built-from-scratch web browser with low memory usage.
Ōryōki Web Browser
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That last one is already implemented with browser caching. Go to a popular website and check the Requests tab on your dev console, it'll probably show 304s for CDNs. But possibly some companies join many JS files together before publishing.
That requires you (as a site author) choosing between two evils, however - even though there no real technical reason why you should have to: Either copy framework-of-your-choice.js to your own host and accept duplication - or serve it from the framework's CDN and get great caching but also accept that you don't have any control anymore what scripts run on your page.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Subres...
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#103This page is a good example of what's wrong with HN. Someone publishes their open source experiment in minimal browser UI design, and everyone shits on it for not being a built-from-scratch web browser with low memory usage.
Experiments are scientific. UI is an art form, and while there is some science present behind UI design, most of that science is founded on observational data, and at times we get someone who has an idea (runs with it) and they just make something and CALL it experimental.
How are they experimenting? Where is the data? What data?
None. No data. No report. No research findings.
So in this context, the word experimental is an excuse for bugs being present, much like how every website server-based tool and how every software release are labeled as alpha or beta indefinitely. They want to lower liability, when it's not really necessary.
This project is NOT experimental. It's an idea that someone came up with and the idea is not new. It's old. It's the idea that minimalism is possible and good. That features are somehow bad or cluttered.
Someone might as well download the latest Linux Mint, remove everything of marginal value, and create a new shell to it you have to guess about how to use... and market the skin as a whole new OS.
tl;dr: false advertising
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Sometimes it's discouraging to think about how RAM requirements keep going up. The laptop I bought in 1999 had 64 MB of RAM, and that was enough for a comfortable multitasking system (dual-booting between Windows 9x and Linux with a GUI) for about two years. Now, we have this, paraphrased from the 2012 novel _Off to Be the Wizard_ by Scott Meyer. Phillip, a time traveler from 1984, asks, "What on earth can a person d…
I ask myself this from time to time. It's hard to quantify quality, but I'm certain that the exponential increase of power in todays PC vs. that of a PC from the 90's is not reflected in an exponential improvement of the vast majority of software currently using this power. It seems that the more power that there is available, the sloppier the use of it. I wonder if someone already formulated some kind of law that de…
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#105This page is a good example of what's wrong with HN. Someone publishes their open source experiment in minimal browser UI design, and everyone shits on it for not being a built-from-scratch web browser with low memory usage.
This is a good example of what is right with HN. Technical people expressing their technical demands w/r/t a technical project. If you want people to ooh and ahh over a project and keep quiet about its faults, show it your relatives.
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#106This page is a good example of what's wrong with HN. Someone publishes their open source experiment in minimal browser UI design, and everyone shits on it for not being a built-from-scratch web browser with low memory usage.
Aesthetically, it's an interesting proposal for minimalism, but technically, it's literally the opposite.
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#108> small web browser [...] built on top of Chromium More accurately, a minimalist web browser UI for Chromium. There's nothing small about Chromium.
Even more accurately, it's a minimalist web browser UI for Electron which is an application UI for Chromium which is a fully-featured web browser UI. These people don't deserve any more Moore improvements.
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#109For anyone interested, here are some web browsers that are actually minimalist and not just reskins of chromium: http://surf.suckless.org/ https://fanglingsu.github.io/vimb/ http://www.uzbl.org/
Seems like the market is moving to almost all second-tier browsers (e.g. Opera) building from Chromium. I think this is a positive development as it should strengthen the underlying code if more people use it as a standard and then innovate UI, tools, services and so forth on top of it. Similar to what you see with the custom Android flavors/knock offs/whatever you want to call them in China.
I myself jumped from Opera when they rewrote to blink
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes it's discouraging to think about how RAM requirements keep going up. The laptop I bought in 1999 had 64 MB of RAM, and that was enough for a comfortable multitasking system (dual-booting between Windows 9x and Linux with a GUI) for about two years. Now, we have this, paraphrased from the 2012 novel _Off to Be the Wizard_ by Scott Meyer. Phillip, a time traveler from 1984, asks, "What on earth can a person d…
I ask myself this from time to time. It's hard to quantify quality, but I'm certain that the exponential increase of power in todays PC vs. that of a PC from the 90's is not reflected in an exponential improvement of the vast majority of software currently using this power. It seems that the more power that there is available, the sloppier the use of it. I wonder if someone already formulated some kind of law that de…