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Exercise Releases Brain-Healthy Protein

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Re: Exercise Releases Brain-Healthy Protein

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Probably because you're talking about academic success which is only loosely correlated to intelligence, and almost entirely not correlated to "brain health." "Brain health," as it's used in this article, would also contribute to coordination, muscle control, and various other things that would benefit athletes in ways that are totally opaque to you or me. The article doesn't say exercise makes you smarter , and even…

One more thing is emotional health, it's already pretty known that exercise helps with anxiety and depression. But I disagree about your assertion about intelligence, I think it plays a huge role in academic success.

There are plenty of people with above average intelligence who enjoy below average academic success, and inversely plenty of people with below average intelligence who enjoy above average academic success.

This can happen for a variety of reasons: poverty, nutrition, "misaligned" interests, etc.

Intelligence plays a role in that someone with an IQ of 80 probably isn't going to Stanford, but there are ostensibly plenty of people with IQs far above your average Stanford student who will never set foot in a university.

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Maybe that works for you, but you'll never be strong/look strong weight training weekly. If you're "overtraining" from one weight training session per week, there's something very wrong. The average human only takes 48-72 hours to fully recover for most muscle groups in the body. It's also been proven that HIIT is much more beneficial for your system than LISS. It might "seem" more beneficial to you, but likely is no…

Long time lurker, finally registered to answer this. What's your definition of "strong"? I've been weight training once a week since March, following Doug McGuff's "Body By Science" method, and I have doubled my weights in 4 of the "big 5" in the last 3 months. While I'm led to believe McGuff's methods will never make anyone look absolutely massive, I disagree with your premise that you have to train more than once a…

No offense meant for something working for you. If it works for you, keep doing it.

I've competed now in three separate strength sports (powerlifting, strongman, olympic lifting). There isn't a single person on any competitive circuit that only lifts weights once every 8 days. You might be getting strong for you. You started in March, so you are on the ultra-beginner slope that means you can basically do any training in existence and make gains. That will steadily slow.

Regarding a definition of "strong", there are many, but the one most people in the strength industry agree on is:

  * 2.5x bodyweight dead lift  
  * 2x bodyweight full squat  
  * 1.5x bodyweight bench  
  * 1x bodyweight standing strict overhead press
So a 180lb person who is "strong" will have a 450lb DL, 360lb squat, 270 lb bench, and 180lb OHP.

No offense to the one person you read, but hundreds of years of strength athletes are on the side of lifting weights multiple times per week.

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well I would argue that other benefits of exercise cannot be simply ingested.

a lot of people cant exercise though

I don't think that is true whatsoever. There might be a few people in millions who absolutely can't do anything.

Everyone can exercise, no matter what condition: bad heart, missing lung, missing limbs, etc. There is some form of exercise that can be done. You name a condition, I'm sure I can find someone on youtube with that condition absolutely crushing a work out.

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Endurance exercise displays an inverted U curve in terms of longevity. Strength is highly correlated with reduced all cause mortality. Which direction the relationship goes is debatable, but being strong is pretty sweet in and of itself.

Source? Anyways I've run marathons in the past, but I mostly do strength training now, actually mostly callisthenics. It's less dedication, gives me more of an adrenaline rush and easier to do than endurance training. I don't deny, though, that most of what I've read says that cardio is better if you just simply want to live as long as possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/comments/1bo5xm/ass...

reddit post with main study, also comments have HN posts about it and good critiques. interesting stuff.

I've seen the cardio U curve study before too but do not have it saved like I did the strength one.

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The connection between exercise and brain health has now been super conclusively and astonishingly shown, but what are some possible evolutionary reasons for this connection? Maybe the extra energetic investment in brain health is only justified when there is an energetic surplus, and doing exercise correlates with having extra energy available? (As opposed to starving and thus needing to conserve energy.) But that d…

"The connection between exercise and brain health has now been super conclusively and astonishingly shown, but what are some possible evolutionary reasons for this connection?"

Your question assumes that bodily health and brain health are separate and distinct things - as if we are mental beings that just happen to have bodies.

Perhaps we should read the headline as "exercise releases body healthy protein" ... I doubt we'd consider that an evolutionary paradox.

Probably these results should be considered ipso facto.

Re: Exercise Releases Brain-Healthy Protein

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John Ratey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ratey), the professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School who wrote Driven to Distration, recently published a book called "Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain" (http://www.amazon.com/Spark-Revolutionary-Science-Exercise-B...).

Spark details how high-intensity cardio (like sprints or interval training) put your brain chemicals in balance in part by generating BDNF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-derived_neurotrophic_fact...), which as Ratey describes, it's like "Miracle-gro" for the brain.

Last year my stress levels were getting out of control from working too much. At the time I was running at least two miles every day so it's not like I wasn't exercising. But then one day I changed from running a couple miles to running 50-yard sprints, as fast and as hard as I could push myself. The first day I only ran four sprints, but I felt euphoric the rest of the day -- the best I had felt in years. So I tried it again a couple days later, and sure enough it worked again -- I felt amazing.

So then I had to find out why this worked -- why a few sprints were so much more effective than running several miles. I started Googling and eventually found Ratey's book -- it explains the entire biochemical process of what's going on and why sprinting works.

It's an eye-opening read. Each chapter covers how high-intensity cardio affects things like stress, anxiety, depression, ADHD. I have ADHD but haven't taken anything for it in years (since I was in college), and I can attest that sprints not only fixed by stress levels, but my ADHD symptoms were almost non existent.

Here's a key point that Ratey makes throughout the book that completely changed my perspective on things -- he says that instead of thinking of exercise as something you should do to look good and build a healthy body, you should instead think of exercise as the key to building a healthy brain:

"We all know that exercise makes us feel better, but most of us have no idea why. We assume its because we're burning off stress or reducing muscle tension or boosting endorphins, and we leave it at that. But the real reason we feel so good when we get our blood pumping is that it makes the brain function at its best" (http://www.sparkinglife.org).

In the book's introduction he goes on to say, "Building muscles and conditioning the heart and lungs are essentially side effects. I often tell my patients that the point of exercise is to build and condition the brain."

In fact the brain exercise routine he recommends is similar to a weight workout routine, in that you have to push yourself hard one day, and then take a day off to let your brain recover, just like in weight training. Another key is when you sprint, always put everything you have into it. Run as fast and as hard as you can so you are constantly pushing your body and your brain past their limitations -- this is the key to growth.

Reposted from: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5323019 (2013)

Also see: "How exercise boosts brain health" (http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-exercise-boosts-brain-health)

Re: Exercise Releases Brain-Healthy Protein

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It probably helps with some markers deemed important in competitive sports like VO2 max and won't help with others that aren't measured. With HIIT you significantly increase the risk of injury and/or death comparing to moderate longer exercise. You should only do it when your body doesn't gain much benefit from moderate ones. Try the popular Tabata sprints just once to understand the stress you are putting your body…

Wait a minute, the part about injury/death is a bit ridiculous. With this logic, stay sedentary, no risk of injury/death from training ever, that's for sure. And never ever go to the mountains or dive! I do HIIT, with running uphill on treadmill (1 min sprint, 2 mins slow pace, increase inclination, repeat), but it's only one type of running I do (others are slowly increasing speed and inclination every 5 mins, and j…

You are probably in a good enough shape to benefit from HIIT. For usual couch potatoes it might not be the case; it would benefit them more to start with swimming/walking, then later running a bit and once they are somewhat in shape and have proper injury-avoiding practices, they can do HIIT.

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Also, you're probably learning during that time. Think about how young animals play: they practice a lot of the skills they need to survive. It builds dexterity, coordination, reflexes and strength. Evolutionary speaking, those animals whose brains go into "extra learning mode" during exercise likely had a huge advantage over their peers whose brains didn't. Their brains picked up on skills related to hunting and sur…

You two are wildly speculating. The fact is that none of this greatly influences reproductive fitness, so it is unlikely to be acted on by evolution. The effect is likely just biochemical coincidence. Repair enzymes in one part of the body effecting another.

The evolutionary reasoning behind almost any trait is going to be entirely speculative.

> The fact is that none of this greatly influences reproductive fitness, so it is unlikely to be acted on by evolution.

It absolutely does, in fact, it's probably a key influence of reproductive fitness in predatory species. The species that can gather more energy or more efficiently use that energy is going to out-grow their peers more each successive generation. And it's easy to see the relationship between more efficient learning and gathering more food.

A group of hunting animals that learn 10% faster during and after exercising than a control group would have a huge resource advantage because they increases both the pool of available prey and the likelihood of catching prey. Acquiring just 7% more calories (and translating that into 7% more offspring) would result in a population that is double the control group in 10 generations.

Re: Exercise Releases Brain-Healthy Protein

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Long time lurker, finally registered to answer this. What's your definition of "strong"? I've been weight training once a week since March, following Doug McGuff's "Body By Science" method, and I have doubled my weights in 4 of the "big 5" in the last 3 months. While I'm led to believe McGuff's methods will never make anyone look absolutely massive, I disagree with your premise that you have to train more than once a…

No offense meant for something working for you. If it works for you, keep doing it. I've competed now in three separate strength sports (powerlifting, strongman, olympic lifting). There isn't a single person on any competitive circuit that only lifts weights once every 8 days. You might be getting strong for you . You started in March, so you are on the ultra-beginner slope that means you can basically do any trainin…

As usual, people say "no offense" when they are about to offend me :)

I have actually read more than one "person". McGuff actually has some credibility, and cites many scholarly articles in his book. However his method is not aimed at competitive weightlifters, which suits me as I don't have hours to spend at the gym every week, or a desire to get huge. I do expect to be stronger than approximately 99% of my peers by the end of the year though, which in my book is a bit better than "strong for me".

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