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Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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After so many years microsoft finally presenting their tools in a more moden way. Never been a huge fan of .NET but i can't deny is a great tool hopefully people try it out on more platforms.

I went full circle, from a critic how they cloned Java back when my employer had the privilege to beta test .NET as a Microsoft partner, to someone that enjoys delivering solutions on the .NET stack.

For me the sweet spot will be when .NET Native becomes more mature and I can get Delphi/Modula-3 back.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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I was expecting they would fix the Uri class on Unix ( https://github.com/dotnet/corefx/issues/1745 ) before releasing 1.0 :( Now I fear their backwards compatibility policies will prevent to fix it later. So much for crossplatformness...

Way too many compatibility issues unaddressed by that PR to have a hope of getting anything changed there. Also it looks like what you (?) are trying to do could easily be solved with the Path.* and Directory.* path manipulation functions. No need to put a million apps at risk when you can wrap your call to Uri() with a three line helper.

3line helper? facepalm...

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

The telemetry was in the original preview release of the tools with RC2. It can be turned off and I believe it won't be in the final stable CLI tools release, but that may change.

It's the same with VS and VS Code (and Atom too). There has been a move from opt-in (for older versions of VS) to opt-out. Although I do still see connections to MS domains with all the customer experience stuff turned off.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#85
post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

Microsoft is looking to do more data-driven design; this is the reason for all the telemetry in Windows as well. Raymond Chen pointed out an example where a button was removed File Explorer (prime real-estate) because the telemetry showed that hardly anyone ever pressed it.

It's unfortunate they are so tone-deaf about the PR implications in Windows.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#86

A bit unrelated, but I'm hoping to hear something soon about the future licensing model for the upcoming SQL Server on Linux. Do we get a free version without DB size / CPU / RAM limitations (but perhaps with some other restrictions) that smaller companies and startups can use in production? I'm planning to run my future ASP.NET MVC projects on Linux and very much would like to know if a better SQL Server Express / C…

You can go ahead with PostreSQL if you use Entity Framework and Code First approach. I used it many times and I was able to quickly jump from PostreSQL to MS SQL and back. It just works. With EF I don't see any reason why I should tie to any particular SQL database

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Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#87
post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

I choose to ignore this post so five weeks from now I can write an outraged "Microsoft is TRACKING YOU" article on Medium that will garner me praise and upvotes.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#88
post #81
post #4

After so many years microsoft finally presenting their tools in a more moden way. Never been a huge fan of .NET but i can't deny is a great tool hopefully people try it out on more platforms.

I went full circle, from a critic how they cloned Java back when my employer had the privilege to beta test .NET as a Microsoft partner, to someone that enjoys delivering solutions on the .NET stack. For me the sweet spot will be when .NET Native becomes more mature and I can get Delphi/Modula-3 back.

What do you mean by "getting Delphi/Modula-3 back" here? There are some implementations for .NET? or that C# is kinda similar? or something else?

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#89
Does Microsoft have some diagram or something that shows how all the .NET things fit together (on Linux)?

The C# development I've done was... fine, but that was seven years ago and it's like Java in the sense that it's an amazingly complex thing to grasp and keep up with. Understanding how everything is layered is pretty complicated at this point.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

#90
post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

Microsoft is looking to do more data-driven design; this is the reason for all the telemetry in Windows as well. Raymond Chen pointed out an example where a button was removed File Explorer (prime real-estate) because the telemetry showed that hardly anyone ever pressed it. It's unfortunate they are so tone-deaf about the PR implications in Windows.

The Story of the Ribbon video about Microsoft and data driven design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9kD693ie4

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