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Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by jerf »

raverbashing wrote: post #48
euroclydon wrote: post #15

Moving from XP to Windows 7 actually sped up a single core 32bit PC I have at home, but then the Win 10 installer filled up the hard drive, and consumed 50% CPU for months before I finally found a nice utility to completely remote it, and keep it gone. It was infuriating!!

Funny how its installer seem to not even do a basic check of disk space and computer capabilities before start to download loads of data If let's say, the installer takes 10GB it shouldn't start downloading anything unless there's at least 20GB

I tried to update my wife's lil' tabletish Acer netbooky thing, because while I don't like the pushiness I did like Windows 10. And it's been pestering us with little popups for weeks at that point. I go to update it, and it says, Sorry, Windows is 64-bit only.

This is when I discover the machine that I purchased only about 2 years ago now was actually 32-bit. Didn't even know they were still making them at that time.

IIRC it bailed out in the first phase before downloading everything, but, still, couldn't the little popup check something as basic as bittedness?

Also IIRC it didn't stop bothering us until I went and did some registry hack or something to make it shut up, as it was just taunting us at that point. But I'm less confident about this aspect of my memory.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by Karunamon »

JeremyBanks wrote: post #8
Karunamon wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forced, no. Incessantly bothered, yes. iOS in specific starts popping up modal dialogs once it sees a new update.

Microsoft and Apple try to protect users from themselves. Users get angry. Users get hacked. Users get angry again.

If only we could divorce the security updates from the "new shiny" stuff.

There was a time when I'd look forward to OS upgrades with excitement to see what improvements there are - now I dread them because there's a real chance I'll lose functionality and be forced into some computer illiterate focus group's views on how I need to use my machine...

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by chipperyman573 »

vblord wrote: post #72

Ugh... I missed my opportunity. I upgraded the OS on my iPhone 3G and the thing ran soooo slow after that. It was so slow that it was almost impossible to use it. I should have sued Apple!!!

Why would you sue Apple for that? They didn't force you to upgrade and you could have researched any negative effects before you upgraded.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by Karunamon »

robin_reala wrote: post #35
no_flags wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true, but still less annoying than when I walked up to my PC to find a brand new OS I didn't ask for. I really wish there was a viable alternative to windows for gaming because I don't want to reward unethical behavior.

Consoles. They still automatically update, but they don’t break any of your other applications when they do.

Every one of the major console vendors is known for unethical behavior.

Microsoft goes without saying given the topic, Sony removes functionality post-sale and bullies people who talk about their security holes, Nintendo violates fair use on Youtube.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

jerf wrote: post #71
raverbashing wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny how its installer seem to not even do a basic check of disk space and computer capabilities before start to download loads of data If let's say, the installer takes 10GB it shouldn't start downloading anything unless there's at least 20GB

I tried to update my wife's lil' tabletish Acer netbooky thing, because while I don't like the pushiness I did like Windows 10. And it's been pestering us with little popups for weeks at that point. I go to update it, and it says, Sorry, Windows is 64-bit only. This is when I discover the machine that I purchased only about 2 years ago now was actually 32-bit. Didn't even know they were still making them at that time…

Huh? I upgraded a 32-bit version of Win10 without any problem. So they exist. Maybe not for every platform?

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by morninj »

gbrown wrote: post #24
Guest98123 wrote: post #19

A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade. So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait…

I wonder if stories like this are why Skype is so completely broken on Linux. If it worked, far more people would be comfortable switching.

Hmm--I've had no trouble with Skype on Ubuntu 14.04 or 16.04. I only use it every few weeks, though.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by josefresco »

Since we're all sharing stories of family tech support - I recently had to give my sister's Toshiba laptop an overhaul, upgraded to Windows 10. That's it... no drama, no problems -sorry.

Didn't XP teach us all a lesson about locked in/legacy software and it's danger to the security and stability of modern computing? Why is it okay that my iOS and Android devices essentially require an update several times a year but not my PC OS?

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by untog »

themartorana wrote: post #42
Guest98123 wrote: post #19

A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade. So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait…

I have mixed feelings about this. I'm with you 100% on having the explicit opportunity to opt out of updates like this. That said, a large swath of Windows users are not nearly as technically literate as you and your mother are, and automatically helping people forward (if for nothing else, security fixes and ongoing support) is a Good Thing in my book (so long as it's free, and it is). There is no doubt there are co…

It would be better if Microsoft hadn't stripped features out of 10 in order to ship it. For example, I use Windows Media Center in Windows 8. If I upgrade to Windows 10 it'll disappear and suddenly I won't be able to watch TV any more.
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