Their practices for downloading updates in Windows 10 itself are not much better. I tried following all the instructions to disable automatic updates on my Windows 10 pro laptop and still they got me with 20 minutes update at the time I needed my computer urgently. Windows behaves like malware these days and it's very sad to see.
Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
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Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#42A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade. So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait…
I have mixed feelings about this. I'm with you 100% on having the explicit opportunity to opt out of updates like this. That said, a large swath of Windows users are not nearly as technically literate as you and your mother are, and automatically helping people forward (if for nothing else, security fixes and ongoing support) is a Good Thing in my book (so long as it's free, and it is).
There is no doubt there are cogent arguments against it. But when I think of the operating systems a lot of botnet computers are running on, I have a hard time not supporting automatic OS upgrades for non-power users.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#43I am frankly surprised that she's the first one who's tried taking Microsoft to court. I kind of anticipated that there would be a class action lawsuit after Microsoft made Windows 10 a "recommended" update--meaning anyone who had their Win 7 or 8 machines set to install recommended updated automatically would get updated without being made aware of it.
No matter what they do, the users would complain. By leaving the settings on recommended, the user said she wants free IT support from Microsoft. Microsoft, like any other IT dept. would, made the decision to upgrade to an OS which will work better for everyone. Sadly, a small amount of users don't understand why they can't keep using the same $200 Dell from 1999 forever - just like many users can't understand why Mi…
Not fair! She was using it fine. It suddenly failed, due to events completely independent of it being a $200 Dell or whatever. She wasn't installing new apps, and her old ones served her well. No, this debacle was entirely of Microsofts' creation.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#44The idea of "let's put a popup on everyone's computer telling them they can download the next version of Windows for free" simply reeks of malware shit. Even worse is when they decided to force it on everyone else who doesn't automatically click "OK" on every dialog box they see.
When parodies like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQkJCfTCgC4 exist, you've messed up.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#45Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#46A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade. So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait…
I have mixed feelings about this. I'm with you 100% on having the explicit opportunity to opt out of updates like this. That said, a large swath of Windows users are not nearly as technically literate as you and your mother are, and automatically helping people forward (if for nothing else, security fixes and ongoing support) is a Good Thing in my book (so long as it's free, and it is). There is no doubt there are co…
I wouldn't be upset if Windows 10 hadn't turned into a telemetry botnet for Microsoft.
Edit: I see in other posts accusations of paranoia. But how can I not be paranoid when I cannot determine what is being transmitted.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "screwed-up interface"? After using 10 (upgraded from 7) for the last few months, I can only say that the interface is better. Any changes that I've noticed have been improvements, so I'm genuinely curious as to what you're referring to.
In my experience, Windows 10 is a poor upgrade from Windows 7 on laptops and desktops. The interface is a buggy, half-hearted attempt to roll back the trainwreck that is Windows 8 to something resembling 7, except 7 still works better since it doesn't have to deal with all the Metro (tablet/touch interface) bits. For now I'm keeping Windows 7 with manual updates - while loathing the fact that I have to use Windows at…
Coming from Windows 7, and being completely baffled by 8.x, I feel 10 is an upgrade in most ways. A bit inconsistent in how apps draw/behave, but still an upgrade.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#48Moving from XP to Windows 7 actually sped up a single core 32bit PC I have at home, but then the Win 10 installer filled up the hard drive, and consumed 50% CPU for months before I finally found a nice utility to completely remote it, and keep it gone. It was infuriating!!
Funny how its installer seem to not even do a basic check of disk space and computer capabilities before start to download loads of data
If let's say, the installer takes 10GB it shouldn't start downloading anything unless there's at least 20GB
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#49A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade. So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait…
I have mixed feelings about this. I'm with you 100% on having the explicit opportunity to opt out of updates like this. That said, a large swath of Windows users are not nearly as technically literate as you and your mother are, and automatically helping people forward (if for nothing else, security fixes and ongoing support) is a Good Thing in my book (so long as it's free, and it is). There is no doubt there are co…
Support it if you want, but you seriously think it's OK for the PC to restart in the middle of a call? What if the user is doing something mission critical; it's acceptable to just wait an hour (or more likely several) to get back to work because "MS knows best"?? There is nothing to stop it from just doing it all over again either. I will never use Windows again because of this behavior.
Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade
#50The idea of "let's put a popup on everyone's computer telling them they can download the next version of Windows for free" simply reeks of malware shit. Even worse is when they decided to force it on everyone else who doesn't automatically click "OK" on every dialog box they see.
In 32 days it won't be free any more (July 29)