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Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by elsurudo »

Karunamon wrote: post #7
no_flags wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "Apple's approach"? I've never been forced to upgrade the OS on my iPhone or Macbook pro.

Forced, no. Incessantly bothered, yes. iOS in specific starts popping up modal dialogs once it sees a new update.

Yeah, it's pretty annoying on iOS. Every day...

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by lumberjack »

no_flags wrote: post #5
lumberjack wrote: post #4

Microsoft are trying to following Apple's approach in dealing with users. But I think there is a bit of a difference here. Apple users opted in. They knew how Apple operates before they bought Apple products. The same cannot be said for long time Microsoft customers.

What do you mean by "Apple's approach"? I've never been forced to upgrade the OS on my iPhone or Macbook pro.

The paternalism i.e. forcing the user to do things the right way.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by wlesieutre »

Karunamon wrote: post #7
no_flags wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "Apple's approach"? I've never been forced to upgrade the OS on my iPhone or Macbook pro.

Forced, no. Incessantly bothered, yes. iOS in specific starts popping up modal dialogs once it sees a new update.

I had a problem with this when the recent iOS 9.2 update was bricking iPad Pros. My iPad had downloaded the update but (having seen early reports of problems) I hadn't let it install.

So naturally, it started incessantly popping up reminders asking to install it, and if you hit "Later" it tells you to enter your passcode and automatically installs it later. There's a small bit of text below the PIN pad that you have to tap to skip it, and it'll come back and ask you again over and over. It is definitely Windows10-esque.

It keeps attempting to install despite the fact that Apple had pulled the release when they confirmed the bricking issue. As far as I can tell there is no way to stop it.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by dmfdmf »

lumberjack wrote: post #4

Microsoft are trying to following Apple's approach in dealing with users. But I think there is a bit of a difference here. Apple users opted in. They knew how Apple operates before they bought Apple products. The same cannot be said for long time Microsoft customers.

Not sure why this is being downvoted. It is clear that MS has Apple (and Google) envy and is ramming Win10 down user's throats to get in on the marketing game and wants to run one single OS controlled by them.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by euroclydon »

Moving from XP to Windows 7 actually sped up a single core 32bit PC I have at home, but then the Win 10 installer filled up the hard drive, and consumed 50% CPU for months before I finally found a nice utility to completely remote it, and keep it gone. It was infuriating!!

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by no_flags »

Karunamon wrote: post #7
no_flags wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "Apple's approach"? I've never been forced to upgrade the OS on my iPhone or Macbook pro.

Forced, no. Incessantly bothered, yes. iOS in specific starts popping up modal dialogs once it sees a new update.

That's true, but still less annoying than when I walked up to my PC to find a brand new OS I didn't ask for. I really wish there was a viable alternative to windows for gaming because I don't want to reward unethical behavior.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by Guest98123 »

A few days ago I was visiting family, and my Mom was online Skyping relatives on her Windows 7 PC. She comes running into the other room and says her PC just restarted while she was talking, and now it says something about configuring Windows 10, even though she was always careful to opt-out of the constant requests to upgrade.

So, we had to wait for it to install the OS, then decline the terms of service, then wait for it to roll-back to the previous OS. I'm using Windows 10 and enjoy it, but I'm still tempted to migrate to another OS just because of these practices.

Re: Woman wins $10k judgment against Microsoft for forced Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by dgritsko »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #10

There are many helpful things about Windows 10 - security, update, performance. Then there's the new screwed-up interface. If they'd staged these two, or offered them separately, there'd be less resistance.

What do you mean by "screwed-up interface"? After using 10 (upgraded from 7) for the last few months, I can only say that the interface is better. Any changes that I've noticed have been improvements, so I'm genuinely curious as to what you're referring to.
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