Just post to their accounts stuff like "hey, so you're going to set them up the bomb like you mentioned last night?" Etc...
US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border
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#42I was always very confused/amused by the questions at the border: "Are you a terrorist or affiliate with a terrorist organization?" "Are you a secret spy" Why would anyone say yes? What's the purpose of this. Do they just need it to avoid arguments like "we dont even ask?" A friend of mine explained it to me: - let's say that they have the suspicion or evidence that you are affiliated w/ a terrorist organization. by…
The border agents are looking for you to slip up or provide a tell. Asking questions like that may sound silly, but that's the point. They want to try to catch people off guard with unexpected questions and see how they react. These agents are trained to read your reaction and body language. Your body language and voice levels can help reveal some truth or at least the fact that you're uncomfortable answering the question. And why would you be uncomfortable answering a question about whether your a terrorist or not?
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#43I find it really problematic: when you fill the US borders paperwork, you are supposed to give objective admin/personal details while on social media you are supposed to speak up your mind. Where do you place the limit between somebody that publicly criticizes the US foreign policy and somebody that can be a threat? How are they going to handle people who posted something like "The US knew about the 9/11 attacks"?
In reality they likely already know this information about you, at least some level of a government agency does, and simply want a way to confront people about it. However when you cross the border I don't think most people are looking for a conversation on whatever beliefs they currently hold or may have held in the past.
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#44There was this idea floating around a few weeks ago, about a startup that curates online sockpuppets of obidient citizen personas (I think it was in response to landlords surveilling their future clients). What was sureley meant as sarcasm is looking more and more like a serious business model.
I suppose the NSA would penetrate that in a heart beat. So you would just brand yourself as proven liar - and end up having an even higher risk of being rejected at the border. You see where this is going. If you use social media, you will have to state the truth. And you know where that leads to.
But, people's online presence is rarely who they really are. Americans are free to create whatever online presence they want to.
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#45And so the US government and US business does not want thousands of dollars for me. No problem. Thanks but no thanks. I will take my business elsewhere.
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#46I was always very confused/amused by the questions at the border: "Are you a terrorist or affiliate with a terrorist organization?" "Are you a secret spy" Why would anyone say yes? What's the purpose of this. Do they just need it to avoid arguments like "we dont even ask?" A friend of mine explained it to me: - let's say that they have the suspicion or evidence that you are affiliated w/ a terrorist organization. by…
The border agents are looking for you to slip up or provide a tell. Asking questions like that may sound silly, but that's the point. They want to try to catch people off guard with unexpected questions and see how they react. These agents are trained to read your reaction and body language. Your body language and voice levels can help reveal some truth or at least the fact that you're uncomfortable answering the que…
I wonder how they are trained to differentiate between someone who is hiding something and someone who is uncomfortable because they have been in a 10 hours flight, barely slept, have not been speaking english for months and are anxious to be suspected for nothing.
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#47what an orwellian fucking nightmare.
no better reason to delete your facebook account than this right here, folks.
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#48I was always very confused/amused by the questions at the border: "Are you a terrorist or affiliate with a terrorist organization?" "Are you a secret spy" Why would anyone say yes? What's the purpose of this. Do they just need it to avoid arguments like "we dont even ask?" A friend of mine explained it to me: - let's say that they have the suspicion or evidence that you are affiliated w/ a terrorist organization. by…
The border agents are looking for you to slip up or provide a tell. Asking questions like that may sound silly, but that's the point. They want to try to catch people off guard with unexpected questions and see how they react. These agents are trained to read your reaction and body language. Your body language and voice levels can help reveal some truth or at least the fact that you're uncomfortable answering the que…
they want you to think they are experts with domain specific secrets passed on through craft-lore passed down from the wizened sages of border security.
But the reality is that this is no different than arson-lore (where firefighters testify based on superstitions regarding burn patterns) or leech-lore (where doctors recommend based on superstitions regarding your humoral balance) or polygraph-lore (where law enforcement interprets the squiggles of your heart to decide when you are lying).
All non-scientifically validated "lore" is just a superstition, and should be treated as such. The reality is that DHS is unable to stop terrorist attacks. Full stop. They can't possibly, in a free society.
That's ok, because that's one cost that a free society pays, but the benefits are worth it, so we carry on.
The problem is that DHS believes their own superstitions, has defined their actions to be "good" because "we're the good guys", and thinks that the public thinks they are responsible for preventing all terrorism.
This only stops when either the public demands change, or at totalitarianism. And you can't really tell, in full, when the first option disappears. You realize after you grasp for it and come up with wisps of smoke.
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#49For the people who claim they'll never take action on trivial stupid tweets: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312 > The 26-year-old bar manager wrote a message to a friend on the micro-blogging service, saying: "Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy America." > Mr Bryan told the newspaper that he was questioned for five hours about his Twitter messages. "All" that happened to him was…
so crazy.
more so when "destroy" can have all kinds of completely innocent meanings.
it's bad judgment, but not something for which a five hour delay plus rejection seems appropriate. how much did we pay for that interrogation, in border security salary?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose the NSA would penetrate that in a heart beat. So you would just brand yourself as proven liar - and end up having an even higher risk of being rejected at the border. You see where this is going. If you use social media, you will have to state the truth. And you know where that leads to.
But, people's online presence is rarely who they really are. Americans are free to create whatever online presence they want to.
> Americans are free to create whatever online presence they want to.
Which are all captured by Prism and other mass surveillance programs (google "Edward Snowden").
Nobody escapes the NSA.