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US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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"Of course my good sir, it's @uspatriot2015." Now, let's all agree to not tell them we can have more than one account! Or to be slightly more specific, I'll give them the facebook account where I dutifully like all the boring funny dog videos and ugly baby photos of relatives, and I'll keep my seditious rabble rousing anti-establishment twitter ac to myself.

Yeah, definitely only give them the account you've groomed to have the highest Sesame credit score.

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

#12
post #5

Background check can be instant and automated. Terminal will just display entry denied message. Israel already does something similar. In result it will drive normal discussion underground, and we will see more surprises such as Brexit referendum results.

Indeed Israel does it, but only for Arabic or Muslim tourists that present certain characteristics - political engagement for instance. So it does exist but it's really not mainstream

Thought policing only for people of arab ethnicity? How generous of them.

Do they not see the irony, in a nation of people that used to got the short end of discrimination and thought policing, now doing it themselves?

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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post #6
post #3

Time to set up some sanitized accounts for plausible deniability?

Likely unnecessary. 1. Unless you are taking extraordinary measures to sever all connections between yourself and your online presence, odds are there are enough links for any Government to tie a person to an account. Given how much is collected at the border already along with the big-data collected passively by the various TLA Government Orgs, they simply need to pop in your Passport ID or Drivers License or State…

Last year i set up a facebook account with a fake name and then never accessed it ever. After a few weeks i started getting emails from fb asking if i knew xxxxxxx, the only way they could have known that i knew these people is by tracking my ip and comparing it with others, looking at those ips and working out who was common amongst their connections. Two people logging from the same ip, creates a bridge between two social graphs, even if they never explicitly declareds that, having, a corporate email address domain in common with sombody else creates a weak link between two branches of the overall graph. Each touch point creates associations which can be mined for knowledge about who you know and interact with. The new face tagging code is scary and can also create thise indirect associations, if yoh appear in multiple peoples photos, and eventualy one of them says thats "xxxxxxx", then you are deanomised for ever. FB is the worlds most amazingly efficient survelence machine, and we feed it willingly.

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

#14
post #4

"Of course my good sir, it's @uspatriot2015." Now, let's all agree to not tell them we can have more than one account! Or to be slightly more specific, I'll give them the facebook account where I dutifully like all the boring funny dog videos and ugly baby photos of relatives, and I'll keep my seditious rabble rousing anti-establishment twitter ac to myself.

"US P At Riot? Please come with us to this little room and explain for several hours what exactly you mean by US P At Riot."

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

#16
post #4

"Of course my good sir, it's @uspatriot2015." Now, let's all agree to not tell them we can have more than one account! Or to be slightly more specific, I'll give them the facebook account where I dutifully like all the boring funny dog videos and ugly baby photos of relatives, and I'll keep my seditious rabble rousing anti-establishment twitter ac to myself.

And how am I going to convince them that I do not use twitter? (I do not use twitter)

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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post #6
post #3

Time to set up some sanitized accounts for plausible deniability?

Likely unnecessary. 1. Unless you are taking extraordinary measures to sever all connections between yourself and your online presence, odds are there are enough links for any Government to tie a person to an account. Given how much is collected at the border already along with the big-data collected passively by the various TLA Government Orgs, they simply need to pop in your Passport ID or Drivers License or State…

I'd be curious to know how they correlate a facebook / twitter identity to a passport number. The number of people with the same name is huge. You could use circles of friends to identify family numbers which you can use if you have access to the Vital Records, but in many (developed) countries, Vital Records are not even digitized.

Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed Israel does it, but only for Arabic or Muslim tourists that present certain characteristics - political engagement for instance. So it does exist but it's really not mainstream

Thought policing only for people of arab ethnicity? How generous of them. Do they not see the irony, in a nation of people that used to got the short end of discrimination and thought policing, now doing it themselves?

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Re: US Customs wants to collect social media account names at the border

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as simple as that: they would still need to make the case but you lying at the border just gives US authorities bigger evidence. Couple of years ago a French tourist answered "yes" to make fun of US borders and ended up in jail for a couple of days - not years as obviously he was more a dumb tourist than a real terrorist

> Couple of years ago a French tourist answered "yes" to make fun of US borders and ended up in jail for a couple of days - not years as obviously he was more a dumb tourist than a real terrorist This must have made the USA so much safer.

I get the sarcasm, but given there are hundreds of millions of US border crossings annually, a policy of taking everything seriously regardless of size probably does make the US safer.
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