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Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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This is great! One problem with Creative Computing is that most libraries seemed to think it was ephemeral and they got rid of their holdings in the early 1990s, so it has been really hard to find. Even my mom thought it was ephemeral and she threw out most of my collection.

That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

Easy, there. Librarians aren't the bad guys in this story.

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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This is great! One problem with Creative Computing is that most libraries seemed to think it was ephemeral and they got rid of their holdings in the early 1990s, so it has been really hard to find. Even my mom thought it was ephemeral and she threw out most of my collection.

That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

Please see http://awfullibrarybooks.net/why-weed/ for a justification of why a library might reduce its collections.

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

I don't like deletion very much either in general, although I've seen librarians defend themselves with 1. that they totally don't have room for stuff 2. for kids' stuff, at least, if it's science, our knowledge has grown so much that it's a disservice for them to read the old book without context. Or if it's fiction, it can be full of social norms and beliefs that we've grown beyond, where...we'd also want them to h…

Most libraries (in Europe, at least) tend to have an incredibly low density of books. I think the image of a good-looking library is more important to them than to actually have more books on the shelves.

E.g. something like this (the main public library in Linköping, Sweden):

https://cdn3.cdnme.se/cdn/7-2/1081760/images/2012/dsc_0337_1...

rather than something like

http://f.tqn.com/y/seattle/1/W/V/F/-/-/IMG_8459.JPG

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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Oh Wow! They have Byte, too... https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-rescans

Jason Scott has been really busy in recent times. Just saw on twitter of him announcing Joe Decuir's Engineering Notebook during his Atari days from 1977.

https://archive.org/details/JoeDecuirEngineeringNotebook1977

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

Libraries are underfunded. Climate controlled storage for stuff that most people won't use is expensive. There are some libraries the do keep everything, so it's not "lost".

But they don't scan everything or even ILL everything, so it's pretty lost by contemporary standards.

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That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

I don't like deletion very much either in general, although I've seen librarians defend themselves with 1. that they totally don't have room for stuff 2. for kids' stuff, at least, if it's science, our knowledge has grown so much that it's a disservice for them to read the old book without context. Or if it's fiction, it can be full of social norms and beliefs that we've grown beyond, where...we'd also want them to h…

They are trying to serve their patrons with limited resources. Getting a new box of books in means that something old has to go. I don't think it's more sinister than that.

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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Nice blast from the past. My intro to programming was as a 9 or 10 year old manually typing most of the samples from Creative Computing's _BASIC Computer Games_ [1] into a Commodore 64 and actually getting them to work. The best one was this one [2], 2.5 pages of densely packed no-whitespace all-caps BASIC. No OCR!

1: http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/index.php

2: http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=15...

Re: Creative Computing Magazine

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This is great! One problem with Creative Computing is that most libraries seemed to think it was ephemeral and they got rid of their holdings in the early 1990s, so it has been really hard to find. Even my mom thought it was ephemeral and she threw out most of my collection.

That's the thing I don't really get about libraries. They are incredibly deletionist. My pet theory: the librarians feel they have power that way, by "curating" the collection that will presented to the peasants.

wow. did you get shushed by a librarian as a child?

Librarians are not power mad media moguls. Librarians and Libraries are closest the non-IT world has to open source/free software/knowledge sharing. They have always been a fantastic resource for the "peasants" as you call them.

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