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Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#111
post #90

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Don't add people you know In real life and don't let people you know friend you.

I have two family members and one friend who are school teachers. All use fake names[0] on Facebook because they don't want to be harrassed by parents or students online. Apparently, it is very common (both the harassment and teachers using aliases) [0] Usually a real first name with an altered/shortened surname

I see this a lot as well, and it's always real first name + middle name.

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#113
post #21

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Nobody's telling anyone how to live their life here, much less you specifically.

Although I agree with a lot of what he's saying, every time I listen to him I can't help but hear the judgemental note. He takes his inherently good ideas to the extreme and they become more off-putting than eye-opening

Yeah when people say correct things in an incorrect way it makes them incorrect. Why don't RMS supporters understand that?

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#114
post #71

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I do not use "democrap" or "republicant", as they do not promote the discussion or understanding in any way. However, I did adopt Stallman's "Copy Restriction" (instead of "Copy Protection") and "Digital Restriction Management" (instead of "Digital Right Management") - because they are a much better description of what the concept actually is for 99% of the people. I started doing this after I told someone that I wil…

I think you'll enjoy this lecture by linguistics professor George Lakoff: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5f9R9MtkpqM Among other things he speaks of the think-tank-driven concerted effort to influence political support by using language invoking specific metaphors to frame important issues. Like "Tax Relief" for dramatically reducing taxes for the rich etc. Changed how I process political speech and pretty much any med…

I recommend also Lakoff's book "Don't think of an elephant"

I thought it is a good story how rethoric and framing is used nowadays in politics.

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#115

Stallman is my hero. All social media is terrible, and all of it is impossible to profit from, and I bet all of it will eventually fail. Facebook doesn't make any money from social media, they make money from side businesses that are tacked onto their social media platform. Anyone who is interested in social blogging should have their own website (wordpress.com is free) with RSS support so people who like what you wr…

I agree with you. I am very careful to use a blank browser profile when I occasionally log onto FB to see what family and friends post, but I generally see it as low value.

I may be old fashioned but I really prefer using email and use my own blog on my own domain.

Also: if you haven't already tried it, give Gnu Social a try. It has some rough edges but I enjoy it, and it feels good paying my Gnu Social site operator little bits of bitcoin so he can afford to keep it running. Gnu Social is federated but it seems to take a while for shared posts to percolate around to other servers.

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#117

So is there a reason these are online? [removed link to photos out of concern that it is unrelated to the OP]

What is your point? Criticizing Facebook is not inconsistent with posting a curated list of photos online.

What is your point? Pointing out a curated list of photos online does not point to any inconsistency with critizing Facebook. If it does, that is merely coincidental and does not speak to the intent behind my post.

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#118

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What is your point? Criticizing Facebook is not inconsistent with posting a curated list of photos online.

What is your point? Pointing out a curated list of photos online does not point to any inconsistency with critizing Facebook. If it does, that is merely coincidental and does not speak to the intent behind my post.

Okay, what is the intent of your post?

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#119
post #34

If someone can't state their point without warping the very language they use to support their point, it makes it very hard to feel like anything they're saying is credible. Example 1: someone is trying to convince me to vote Republican. They go through the Republican platform issue by issue, and compare/contrast it to the Democrats' stand. However, every time they use the word "Democrat" they instead say "Democrap"…

You were bringing up a interesting/intellectual point until you mention the word free. At that point, either you are pointing towards a tribe of thinking, or simply ignoring the massive amount of Philosophy that has been written around the concept of freedom and the many and large volume of thought that has been written about it. John Locke wrote 400 years ago a definition of freedom that fits what RMS says, and its not without reason that RMS often says that the word liberty is a better word since its less ambiguous, except for in the US where liberty has been associated with a political party. GPLv2 even call a clause "liberty or death", rather than "freedom or death".

Is it really that wrong to use freedom and liberty as two interchangeable words? Having read some philosophy, even those trying to define the words often use both words. As an example, "Persons have a right or liberty to follow their own will in all things that the law has not prohibited" and "Freedom is constrained by laws in both the state of nature and political society".

Re: Reasons not to use (i.e., be used by) Facebook

#120
post #34

If someone can't state their point without warping the very language they use to support their point, it makes it very hard to feel like anything they're saying is credible. Example 1: someone is trying to convince me to vote Republican. They go through the Republican platform issue by issue, and compare/contrast it to the Democrats' stand. However, every time they use the word "Democrat" they instead say "Democrap"…

How about "undemocratic party" for the Democratic party?
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