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Re: Over one million people sign UK petition for second EU referendum

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Post by HoopleHead » Sun, Jun 26, 2016, 7:12 AM UTC

ProxCoques wrote: post #98

HoopleHead wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An Irish one ain't gonna happen. The majority Unionists' anti-anything-Irish hatred and desire to remain British is far stronger than their wanting to stay in the EU. As an Irish Nationalist myself, the only outside chance for Irish unification that I can see would be if Scotland voted to leave the UK first. The Unionists in N. Ireland tend to identify themselves as "Ulster Scots"[1], so the advent of a Britain witho…

I guess you've not been following Ian Paisley Jr on Twitter then... Things are going completely through the looking glass right now...

Interesting, I'll grant you. But it still smacks more of opportunism [pragmatism, it you want to be charitable] than a Road to Damascus conversion, On Paisley Jr's part.

Still. If a few loyalists find they can carry an Irish passport, without it burning their skin, maybe that's something.

Re: Over one million people sign UK petition for second EU referendum

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Post by sklogic » Sun, Jun 26, 2016, 7:32 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #96

sklogic wrote: post #37

Over 50% of the country are chavs. There is nothing more stupid in this world than a chav.

Oh, good grief. You know you can't comment like this here (or "fuck the lefties", below, which reads like self-parody). As I explained before, I don't want to ban you because you post interesting technical comments. But if you post anything else like this, we will have to ban you or other users will correctly complain about a double standard. Civil and substantive comments only, please, from now on. We detached this…

:(

For you, Americans, it all might seem a bit abstract and detached. For us, it's a very heated and real class war. And we do not take prisoners.

Re: Over one million people sign UK petition for second EU referendum

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Post by HoopleHead » Sun, Jun 26, 2016, 7:36 AM UTC

HoopleHead wrote: post #101

ProxCoques wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you've not been following Ian Paisley Jr on Twitter then... Things are going completely through the looking glass right now...

Interesting, I'll grant you. But it still smacks more of opportunism [pragmatism, it you want to be charitable] than a Road to Damascus conversion, On Paisley Jr's part. Still. If a few loyalists find they can carry an Irish passport, without it burning their skin, maybe that's something.

UPDATE: Having suffered for my art by actually reading through some of Paisley Jr's Twitter stream [which was as unreconstructedly "orange" as I expected], it seems what he actually said was that people should avail of a SECOND passport, if they're entitled to one. He never used the word IRISH. Another case of Chinese Internet Whispers

Re: Over one million people sign UK petition for second EU referendum

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Post by dang » Sun, Jun 26, 2016, 6:56 PM UTC

sklogic wrote: post #102

dang wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, good grief. You know you can't comment like this here (or "fuck the lefties", below, which reads like self-parody). As I explained before, I don't want to ban you because you post interesting technical comments. But if you post anything else like this, we will have to ban you or other users will correctly complain about a double standard. Civil and substantive comments only, please, from now on. We detached this…

:( For you, Americans, it all might seem a bit abstract and detached. For us, it's a very heated and real class war. And we do not take prisoners.

I can accept your description of the context you're coming from, but you need to modulate your behavior when stepping into this context, a considerably different one. That's true for every one of us here.

Given how little information we have about each other, it's trivially easy to make false assumptions about others (such as who is an X and what are the qualities of "you Xs"). By default, that leads to conflict, and conflict on the open internet leads to the wasteland (and I don't mean great modernist poetry). Therefore, we need ways of actively preventing that from happening and we all need to practice them consciously. That's what I'm asking you to do, and stick to.