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Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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[deleted] I should have just down-voted the affiliate link and left it at that. Something's changed in the tenor of comments here on HN, and my reaction to it isn't productive. For the foreseeable future, I think I'm going to bite my tongue and read in silence.

How is that principled?? You hate when others benefit even if it's at no detriment to you?? SCARCITY THINKING :_( Okay, if you like reading text on your screen, you can also read it for free here: http://www.gorgorat.com

Someone registered that domain name just to host a pirated copy of a book?

(Mind, it's one of my favorite books).

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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This probably only works if you're Richard Feynman.

I know a Welsh guy named Ed (very short guy) who never leaves a pub without a girl on his arm. I always wondered how he did it so I asked him and he told me his pickup line. He said: "I go up to a girl and I start off with saying hi, introducing myself as Ed, I then say to them this line" "Look, girls are into honesty right? Well the truth is I have a big d!&k and want to put it in you" He told me that the secret to…

What was the quality of the women who responded favorably to this line? :P

I think it's also worthy to note that the origin makes a huge difference. If you e.g. have an underwear model trying that line on a woman, it will no doubt succeed more often than if a stereotypical truck driver delivered it in exactly the same way.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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[deleted] I should have just down-voted the affiliate link and left it at that. Something's changed in the tenor of comments here on HN, and my reaction to it isn't productive. For the foreseeable future, I think I'm going to bite my tongue and read in silence.

How is that principled?? You hate when others benefit even if it's at no detriment to you?? SCARCITY THINKING :_( Okay, if you like reading text on your screen, you can also read it for free here: http://www.gorgorat.com

I'm happy for people to benefit online in proportion to the value they provide to others. Post a thoughtful comment, write a review, link previously disparate ideas? Sure, put in an affiliate link. Hijack the top comment on a thread with just an Amazon link? Not so much.

At least you were up front about it, I'll give you that. :)

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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[deleted] I should have just down-voted the affiliate link and left it at that. Something's changed in the tenor of comments here on HN, and my reaction to it isn't productive. For the foreseeable future, I think I'm going to bite my tongue and read in silence.

How is that principled?? You hate when others benefit even if it's at no detriment to you?? SCARCITY THINKING :_( Okay, if you like reading text on your screen, you can also read it for free here: http://www.gorgorat.com

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Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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I figure that my 'i know i'll be downmodded for this' aside zeros things out ;)

Haha you should email me I think we'd be friends

Aw that's cute. Are you going to make-out?

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Unfortunately, judging from the context, that wasn't even a joke.

Are you upset because a man said it? "Math is too male and we need to come up with more female ways of teaching it" is a pretty standard feminist idea. In fact, replace "math" with a wide variety of things. Recall he's not working under modern PC strictures, not that he necessarily would have subjected himself to them anyhow. He gets to say it directly, not cloak it in endless verbiage. That said, I actually disagree…

I think that "math is what it is" is a false statement, at least in the way you intended it. The way math is represented is not at all inherent to mathematical structure (i.e. left to right, the characters you use, etc.) and I'm sure many procedures we use to solve math equations could be done in different ways (long division vs. short division, for example).

It is possible that the way we represent math and the way we solve mathematical problems is somehow inherently more difficult for females, and that a different system might better.

But I have no idea what system that would be, and practically I don't think it's worth it.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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That was before HIV. Still, the pick up artists seem to give similar advice.

It was also before mass production of penicillin. Venereal diseases like syphilis and gonorrhea were a much bigger deal back then.

Agreed.

For the record, it is very hard to contract HIV from vaginal sex. (< 1/10000 per-instance chance)

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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No, I'm "upset" because the rest of the article makes it clear that Feynman really did think that women were inherently useless as math -- and even "rational thought" in general: >Those people who have for years been insisting (in the face of all obvious evidence to the contrary) that the male and female are equally capable of rational thought may have something. This is a bit rich for my tastes (but it will no doubt…

The "obvious evidence to the contrary" was the math gender gap, which was very real at the time. If you actually read the story, it's quite clear that Feynman is telling the story at his own expense (showing how wrong he had been about girls + math). There's no question he was sexist, but see _debug_ and blackguardx's tandem quote to see that he regarded them as equals mentally: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11…

I did read the whole article, but did not get the impression that it was meant to be a joke at his expense. That's just not supported by the text. The most he's willing to say is that "if it is done in the right way, you may be able to get something out of it [the female mind]." Hardly a U-turn.

Also, the quote you referenced does absolutely nothing to show that RF regarded women as his mental equals. It just shows that he sometimes explained stuff to them -- not surprising, given that he presumably had some female students/colleagues.

In any case, whatever the merits of Feynman's position at the time, I'm bemused that anyone could find his views on this topic quoteworthy.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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No, I'm "upset" because the rest of the article makes it clear that Feynman really did think that women were inherently useless as math -- and even "rational thought" in general: >Those people who have for years been insisting (in the face of all obvious evidence to the contrary) that the male and female are equally capable of rational thought may have something. This is a bit rich for my tastes (but it will no doubt…

I'm genuinely curious if anyone has studied the differences in the sexes when it comes to math. Why is it no woman has won the fields medal? Why do many talented women stop their academic career at the bachelor and masters level when it comes to mathematics? I think you would of been able to say that sexism in academia was a reason in the past, but I just don't think that really flies anymore. Is it possible the genu…

>I'm genuinely curious if anyone has studied the differences in the sexes when it comes to math.

Well yeh, tons of people have studied it:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=women+male+math+differen...

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Not in the slightest. At the risk of destroying my chances of ever getting into YC (hi JL, PG, RTM et al!) I had astonishingly great luck with asking attractive women if they wanted to make out with me last Spring. Seriously: "hey, let's make out!" or "would it unduly offend you if I asked you to make out with me?" You're probably better off asking this sort of thing after conversing with them for a bit so you don't…

Eh, if anything it'll help you. It shows that you're not a wimp and that you're willing to experiment, both good things. And they're all human, you know. They realize that people do sexual things, even successful startup founders. And PG and JL have a baby. I'll let you draw your own conclusions based on that.

I'll let you draw your own conclusions based on that.

Ah, the wonders of in vitro fertilization.

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