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Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Nature also intended humans to use intelligence when sharing thoughts with others. If you bother to dig a little deeper than your mindless appetite for cheeseburgers and attempted internet wit, perhaps you'll discover the answer to your own question.

There wasn't any Internet wit in there. The problem stems from current livestock farming practices. Fixing that problem is far easier than trying to create lab grown meat, and in the end will be healthier as it doesn't require a change in our biological system. Do you really believe our body's are going to process 'fake meat' as 'real meat'? I am highly skeptical of that aspect as well. Furthermore, you have taken th…

What are you talking about? The burgers are made from plants and natural ingredients, it's not "lab grown meat" did you even read the article?

Further more, if you think "fixing livestock farming practices" is easy, then you're missing the big picture issue where billions of people demand meat on their plate every day for little cost. The environmental cost of the meat industry is not on your average meat eater's mind. Is it on your mind? Doesn't sound like it if you say things like "hey just fix it hmmkay cos I loves my meat".

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What does being "vegan on principle" mean here? What specific principles are you talking about? Some vegans do it because killing animals is morally bankrupt. Some vegans do it because raising livestock is unsustainable. There is not enough land on earth for everyone to have a meat diet. Some vegans do it because it's healthier. In general you can expect to ingest less toxins by eating lower on the food chain. I'm no…

It's an informal sociological clustering observation. Vegans are often sort of 'hippy' types, who place value on food being 'natural', 'organic' and dislike GMOs.

Ohhh I see. It's similar to how vegans generally consider all non-vegans immoral lazy unhealthy fat poison-eating murderers. The informal sociological clustering is efficient since the generalization is ~80% true. Nuance wastes too much time.

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What does being "vegan on principle" mean here? What specific principles are you talking about? Some vegans do it because killing animals is morally bankrupt. Some vegans do it because raising livestock is unsustainable. There is not enough land on earth for everyone to have a meat diet. Some vegans do it because it's healthier. In general you can expect to ingest less toxins by eating lower on the food chain. I'm no…

For the record, I know plenty of people who are actually against GMO's and want them labelled so that all consumers can boycott them and they get forced out of the market.

I don't think getting GMOs labeled is a plot to get all consumers to boycott them... It's so the subsection of the population that cares about ingesting GMOs can make an informed choice when buying food.

That's like saying getting kosher food labeled was really a plot to get everyone to boycott all non-kosher food.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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It's an informal sociological clustering observation. Vegans are often sort of 'hippy' types, who place value on food being 'natural', 'organic' and dislike GMOs.

Ohhh I see. It's similar to how vegans generally consider all non-vegans immoral lazy unhealthy fat poison-eating murderers. The informal sociological clustering is efficient since the generalization is ~80% true. Nuance wastes too much time.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rabble-rouser/201210/st...

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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Ohhh I see. It's similar to how vegans generally consider all non-vegans immoral lazy unhealthy fat poison-eating murderers. The informal sociological clustering is efficient since the generalization is ~80% true. Nuance wastes too much time.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/rabble-rouser/201210/st...

Is linking to some random opinion article on the Internet your way of arguing for the validity of stereotypes? Well, I'm convinced. Too bad "accurate enough" doesn't work in physics, we'd already understand the universe by now!

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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The monk training food is a good one. If you are traveling in southeast asia, and want vegan food, ask for buddhist food. (Alas, that also precludes garlic and onion, but that's a small sacrifice in exchange for having an easy shorthand to explain vegan food.)

Some do include egg and milk, so would not be suitable for vegans..

Thanks! Does that understanding depend on the person you are talking to, or just the country you are in when you ask?

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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For the record, I know plenty of people who are actually against GMO's and want them labelled so that all consumers can boycott them and they get forced out of the market.

I don't think getting GMOs labeled is a plot to get all consumers to boycott them... It's so the subsection of the population that cares about ingesting GMOs can make an informed choice when buying food. That's like saying getting kosher food labeled was really a plot to get everyone to boycott all non-kosher food.

That's not the plan by everyone who wants labelling, no. All I said is that I know people who do want/expect it to work that way. (I neither want it to or believe that it will).

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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"a mcdonalds hamburger, which also is immediately recognizable as almost inedible." People don't buy 6 million units per day when something is "almost inedible".

Insert standard argument about zillions of flies can't all be wrong WRT poo. Also the argument doesn't depend on a specific "meat" or seller or sales figures. How about mystery meat products at the food store like "olive loaf bologna" not even sure what kind of animal that comes from...

That "standard argument" doesn't apply here.

The OP claimed that McDonalds burgers were "inedible". Observably, millions of people do eat them, therefore the OP is wrong.

That says nothing about the quality of the burgers, or whether eating them is a good idea, or anything else. It merely demonstrates that people do, in fact, find them edible.

"How about mystery meat products at the food store like "olive loaf bologna""

What about it? People obviously buy it and presumably eat it, or it wouldn't be in the store.

Re: Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes and Sizzles Like Meat

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I don't think getting GMOs labeled is a plot to get all consumers to boycott them... It's so the subsection of the population that cares about ingesting GMOs can make an informed choice when buying food. That's like saying getting kosher food labeled was really a plot to get everyone to boycott all non-kosher food.

That's not the plan by everyone who wants labelling, no. All I said is that I know people who do want/expect it to work that way. (I neither want it to or believe that it will).

For the record, I know plenty of people who actually believe climate change isn't real. Is that relevant to a discussion on environmental policy?
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