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UK votes to leave EU

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Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by panic »

ekianjo wrote: post #18
lossolo wrote: post #5

Unfortunately nationalism and populism won another war. Now watch Scotland make referendum to leave UK and after leaving they will join EU.

To be frank the EU was built on power centralization and socialism as key principles. It's been what, 15 years+ since the Eurozone and the Economy is still doing as bad as before, if not worse for most member states. Hardly a success model by ANY measure.

The worldwide economy isn't doing very well; it's not just the EU. Is there any evidence that leaving the EU will help this situation? I think there are a lot of people who agree with you, but this whole thing seems too poorly planned and justified to really understand the impact. People are voting based on how they feel instead of what will actually have the best outcome.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by ekianjo »

Populism is seen as bad by people who want centralization of power (socialists of all borders in general, as well as fascists). So if you have been fed the socialist propaganda for years when living in the EU, you assume it's bad.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by alex_young »

ekianjo wrote: post #18
lossolo wrote: post #5

Unfortunately nationalism and populism won another war. Now watch Scotland make referendum to leave UK and after leaving they will join EU.

To be frank the EU was built on power centralization and socialism as key principles. It's been what, 15 years+ since the Eurozone and the Economy is still doing as bad as before, if not worse for most member states. Hardly a success model by ANY measure.

I'm sure Germany agrees. The EU has been just terrible for member economies.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by BoysenberryPi »

a13n wrote: post #12

Can someone please give an unbiased summary of what this means and how it will impact the UK, Europe, and the rest of the world?

Despite what most people are claiming on social media and even here, the fact is no one actually knows what is going to happen. Even Nigel Farage, the leader behind the "Brexit" movement, has said he has "absolutely no idea what will happen..."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/nigel-farage...

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by mudil »

You know what? Some of us are sick of regulations from Brussels, of unelected bureaucracy, of CE Marks of approval, of socialism, of rampant immigration, of refugees, of Russian prostitutes, of Polish kielbasa shops in London, of feeling like foreigners in our own land.

And we might not be in the minority anymore.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by martythemaniak »

a13n wrote: post #12

Can someone please give an unbiased summary of what this means and how it will impact the UK, Europe, and the rest of the world?

There's no such thing and nobody knows. The UK may break up or not. This could be very bad for the EU or they could just shrug. Stay tuned.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by sandworm101 »

thetmkay wrote: post #15

I voted today. I work in London at a startup with international markets. I believe in the ideal of free movement. I think the EU is a bit of a mess conceptually and mechanically, but in general a step forward for Europe. This is really the beginning of a very long, tedious and ultimately unsatisfying couple of years of dissatisfaction and instability as we negotiate with the EU and the rest of the world.

>>> ... as we negotiate with the EU and the rest of the world.

HA! Negotiate. If Britain want to shoot itself in the foot and unsettle the world economy, it can do so on its own. The EU need not concede on anything. Why should they, given that Britain won't be a voting member in a couple years. If I were France I would start bricking up the chunnel tomorrow.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Post by mmbaghdad »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #24
lossolo wrote: post #5

Unfortunately nationalism and populism won another war. Now watch Scotland make referendum to leave UK and after leaving they will join EU.

Is populism supposed to be bad? I just looked up the definition to make sure and it's basically the principle that ordinary people should have control over government rather than political insiders and wealthy elite. That sounds like democracy to me. Is there an aspect I'm missing?

It is supposed to, if you add fear mongering to it. Dictators usually believe in it, that's why they try to control every news outlet or public space there is and spread their propaganda
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