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Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by nojvek »

alanh wrote: post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

That reads like a high school breakup text. Let's encrypt is always free. Just needs to be renewed right? What's with the 90day free invention he's talking about?

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by kefka_p »

I've uninstalled some software I've paid good money for as a result of this behavior. Further Comodo will net exactly zero recommendations from me until this behavior is rectified.

Utterly intolerable.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by oakwhiz »

alanh wrote: post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

Oh no, someone shut down my money printer.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by seandougall »

greenspot wrote: post #101
icebraining wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a fair question, though you don't actually need to register your trademark to "own" it, it just provides some advantages and of course reduces the danger that someone will do what Comodo did.

If Comodo would have actively used "Letsencrypt" as a brand paired with Comodo's registration this case would be crystal clear: Letsencrypt wouldn't own anything. With the situation now, it's debatable but saying that a trademark 'just provides some advantages' is a bit of an understatement.

That's a bit oversimplified. If LE had used the mark first, and had taken the measure of asking Comodo to stop using it, that would show them protecting their trademark, which would give them a case. The PTO is quite clear that registration is not required for a trademark to be enforceable.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by vsl »

scrollaway wrote: post #148

I'm cancelling an order for a code-signing certificate with Comodo. This is disgusting behaviour on their part. Can someone recommend a good provider for code signing certs?

DigiCert. After a year with Symantec (can't recommend) it was a joy to get one from DigiCert. Good site, good tools, reasonable prices, 3 yr option, painless validation process (I'm in a small EU country, which tends to complicate things on occasion). Can't recommend enough.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by itsnotlupus »

nojvek wrote: post #251
alanh wrote: post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

That reads like a high school breakup text. Let's encrypt is always free. Just needs to be renewed right? What's with the 90day free invention he's talking about?

I think he's trying to argue that Comodo's radical business idea of "you can get a free certificate for 90 days before having to buy it" has been literally stolen by Let's Encrypt's "You can renew your free certificate every 90 days forever."

Because both approaches are critically centered around the number 90, or something..

It's embarrassing. I hope that CEO is good at other things.

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