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Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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OK, so this guy's problem with Google is that it doesn't give all of its perks to all employees? Why the hell would the company treat employees from significantly different labour markets the same way in the first place? Is there some crazy assumption that any employee should be equally valuable to the company?

On the contrary, they wouldn't have a career doing non-parody corporate commentary art without that very behavior.

Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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post #3

OK, so this guy's problem with Google is that it doesn't give all of its perks to all employees? Why the hell would the company treat employees from significantly different labour markets the same way in the first place? Is there some crazy assumption that any employee should be equally valuable to the company?

Being able to use the restroom when you need to is a perk?

Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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What I find most interesting about this piece is the awesome lifestyle of flitting from grant to grant as a semi-celebrity in the international jet-set art world. Also lets you feel good about "leaking" your employer's information to "organizers." Take that, employer! And best of all, you get to use the word "show" as a nontransitive verb, as in "I showed at Venice." Apparently this lifestyle is only available if you…

There's a lot of odd insinuations and expectations in this piece. I found particularly strange the part where he talks about his joy in talking communist politics in Berkeley and then immediately muses about how to make these skills 'marketable' and about his resentment that he might not be rewarded with a comfortable bourgeois middle-class existence. Feels like there are a lot of unstated assumptions and arguments behind his opinions and actions which he never makes explicit or considers.

Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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I think the problem with Google is that it advertised (still does?) itself, in a rather believable way, as being be diverse, fun, everyone working together -- developers, janitors and artists all holding hands creating a brigher tomorrow and perhaps fighting against evil. Well it worked for me back then, I really did believe Google was "Don't Be Evil" kind of company and so on, vis-a-vis say Microsoft, or say Walmart…

> So you see, Google took advantage of that image, and it worked out great for them. The problem is as soon as they went that way it became a high risk game, because from then on they will be judged according to that standard.

Among people who are aware of that standard, I agree with you. On the other, sadder hand, I think that, to most people, Google really is Just Another Company. And we expect companies--except maybe Apple, except actually really Apple too--to be heartless, soulless optimizing machines.

That we tolerate that behavior out of social constructed created expressly to help society...well, whether they're doing that, and whether we should do something about the ones that aren't, is a deeply political matter, but tangential.

Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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can't post anything negative about Google on HN. Will get automatically down voted by their thousands of drones, I mean employees.

Is it actually possible to downvote postings on HN? (Why am I being downvoted for asking an honest question?)

yes but I believe you need a certain amount of karma

Re: The Artist Leaving the Googleplex

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post #3

OK, so this guy's problem with Google is that it doesn't give all of its perks to all employees? Why the hell would the company treat employees from significantly different labour markets the same way in the first place? Is there some crazy assumption that any employee should be equally valuable to the company?

Being able to use the restroom when you need to is a perk?

Yes. I don't know how they organized scanning books, but in a lot of jobs it makes total sense. Do you know how a conveyor belt works, for example?

Soccer players earn millions of dollars, but they still can't go to a bathroom break in the middle of a game.

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