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Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by adrianN »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #7
vilmosi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can't really compare Safari with Edge as they are are exclusive to different platforms.

It wouldn't be too hard to dual-boot Win10 on Apple hardware and compare them, but it might be a little awkward for Microsoft to do so officially.

The OS is a pretty obvious confounding factor, don't you think?

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by someear »

lavalampkid wrote: post #8

Definitely not a fair test... Edge was rendering a lot more without an ad-blocker.

especially if there were animations going on in those ads. Most battery savings come during (even super short) periods of idle time, when various hardware components can enter lower power states

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by guroot »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #7
vilmosi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can't really compare Safari with Edge as they are are exclusive to different platforms.

It wouldn't be too hard to dual-boot Win10 on Apple hardware and compare them, but it might be a little awkward for Microsoft to do so officially.

That wouldn't work. You don't get the same battery life out of a mac on windows as you do on macOS just sitting idle. I don't know how you would control for that.

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by guroot »

amq wrote: post #4

Opera with an ad blocker vs Edge without it doesn't seem like an ubiased test.

Even with the ad blocker being a feature in opera out of the box? They were trying to show that opera can achieve better battery performance based on it's features and optimizations. Does that not include the ad-blocker?

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by Quai »

rubber_duck wrote: post #5
amq wrote: post #4

Opera with an ad blocker vs Edge without it doesn't seem like an ubiased test.

And they say "Opera Developer (39.0.2248.0)" - which is presumably a dev build of the browser. Like it would be fine if they say "in next version we will retake the top" or whatever but don't try to dispute their results by providing something they had no way of measuring.

The developer stream is public, and so is the exact build they used[1].

[1] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera-developer/39.0.2248.0/

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by cordite »

theseatoms wrote: post #10
amq wrote: post #4

Opera with an ad blocker vs Edge without it doesn't seem like an ubiased test.

It doesn't. But there's no reason anyone should be running a browser without an ad-blocker in the first place. Edge should have a lightweight ad-blocker built-in by default.

How would that fair with Bing's ad network?

Re: Why we challenge Microsoft’s battery test

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Post by sliverstorm »

mackey wrote: post #9
vilmosi wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can't really compare Safari with Edge as they are are exclusive to different platforms.

But they could do a separate test of Opera, Safari, and Chrome on the Mac.

Opera was specifically aiming at Edge in this, it seems.
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