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Defending Our Brand

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Re: Defending Our Brand

#141
post #51

Your motivation motivated me to donate

Please refrain from starting and continuing "comment chains". It's not funny and doesn't add to the conversation.

Please refrain from "rules lawyering". It's not funny and doesn't add to the conversation.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#142
post #93

Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.

I am on LetsEncrypt's side to defend their branding. However, Comodo's intent is understandably clear: you take away my business by giving away free certs I screw you in your branding. (not that I agree with this tactic.)

It's a bit like a buggy whip manufacturer registering a trademark on the word 'ford' at the introduction of the model T. Understandable, but not permissible.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#143
post #5

You can only imagine it's being done for malicious reasons. It doesn't seem like there is any good reason for Comodo to do this, other than try protect revenue loss.

If 'protect revenue loss' is an oblique way of justifying outright theft, then sure.

These snakes are aggressive as hell. They monitor domain registrations and email-bomb anyone in DNS records. Their spam gets through filters and they'll call you up to sell you certs. Fuck them.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#145
post #121
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's Encrypt doesn't offer EV certs. Which is reasonable; EV certs can't be automated (and they're a dumb idea anyway), but they're still necessary for some of my sites.

> EV certs can't be automated No entirely, but mostly: seeing as this is my job, I should have some idea. Currently writing a post about how we've used some psych techniques to automate the non-automatable parts which I'll post on HN. > (and they're a dumb idea anyway) EV matches identity to public keys. Nothing more, nothing less. If you need EV, we ( https://certsimple.com ) specialise in making those background ch…

Anecdotally: I fully recommend CertSimple. We used them for an EV cert we needed and not only was it simple to set up the request, but the processing was quick, too!

Re: Defending Our Brand

#148
I'm cancelling an order for a code-signing certificate with Comodo. This is disgusting behaviour on their part.

Can someone recommend a good provider for code signing certs?

Re: Defending Our Brand

#149
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always use acme-tiny [0] to set up LE certs. You can follow their README to set up everything, including automatic reneweal cronjob in a couple minutes. 0: https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny#readme

That's not always an option. For example, when I was looking into it for google app engine, I came across these directions: http://blog.seafuj.com/lets-encrypt-on-google-app-engine and http://igorartamonov.com/2015/12/lets-encrypt-ssl-google-app... That's not so bad if you have to do it once a year or better yet once every two years, but I'm not doing that every 3 months. There's an issue open to allow for the proces…

I know this doesn't help you, but the best fix for this would be for App Engine to implement letsencrypt support directly, so they can automatically provision and renew certificates for anyone that uses app engine

Re: Defending Our Brand

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would have to prove the lawyer knew. It sounds difficult to prove short of an email exchange and I have no idea how the courts work but hopefully you can't get access to a company's emails just by filing a suit based on "I'm pretty sure"

You might argue "due diligence", that as Lets Encrypt appear on a simply internet search the lawyer's claimed ignorance [if they do claim ignorance] shows a wilful act to hide from knowing that it was already an established trademark. There is no way - on balance of probabilities - that any company enlists a trademark lawyer to register a mark without that lawyer first doing an internet search (eg for associations wi…

I've received legal advice to take care not to discover patents. Because if we knew of the existence of a patent then it could be shown that we were knowingly infringing on the patent.

I wonder if trademark law has similar incentives to behave irrationally.

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