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So, "Pay it Forward" is playing out for real on Hacker News to fight mass or criminal surveillance? Hell, I'm in! Threw them some dough. :)
Is there an easy way to switch from CloudFlare's COMODO to Let's Encrypt? If so I'm in !
Defending Our Brand
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#112"Verified by: COMODO CA Limited"
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#113[x] First they ignore you, [x] then they laugh at you, [x] then they fight you, [ ] then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
[0] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi#Misattributed
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm also puzzled that Let's Encrypt's Trademark policy [1] strongly suggests that 'Let's Encrypt' is a trademark (word mark?) that they have registered, and yet according to the most recent letter sent by the USPTO [2] "The Office records have been searched and there are no similar registered or pending marks that would bar registration [...]" [1] https://letsencrypt.org/trademarks/ [2] http://tsdr.uspto.gov/document…
I don't see anything in their trademark policy that implies they have registered any of their marks yet. In fact, all the marks in the "included, but not limited to" list use ™ instead of ®, the later which can only be used with registered trademarks. Searching the USPTO database[1] for "let's encrypt" only reveals Comodo's 1B registrations. All that being said, under US law you still have trademark rights even befor…
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#115The bullshit the CAs pull never ceases to amaze me.
The entire CA model is fundamentally broken: I rely on an entity I have no relationship to vouch for entities it has a relationship with. That makes no sense. The way it should work is that I rely on an entity I do have a relationship with to vouch for entities. Could be public, could be private (I'd prefer private, since that would make resiliency, competition & experimentation more likely).
The problem is that a single entity can vouch for each site, so if you don't want to trust it, you can't validate the site at all. Moxie's Convergence[¹] proposal - like Carnegie Mellon's Perspectives Project before - avoids this problem by allowing many entities to vouch for the same site.
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#116Well done Comodo, this motivated me to donate to Let's Encrypt. https://letsencrypt.org/donate/
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Lets encrypt certs are only valid for 3 months. In many situations the auto-renewal stuff is inconvenient. Then its easier to just buy a commercial cert that's valid for a few years.
I always use acme-tiny [0] to set up LE certs. You can follow their README to set up everything, including automatic reneweal cronjob in a couple minutes. 0: https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny#readme
That's not so bad if you have to do it once a year or better yet once every two years, but I'm not doing that every 3 months.
There's an issue open to allow for the process to be automated, hopefully by the next time I need to renew it'll be available. But as it stands today I went with a paid certificate.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm also puzzled that Let's Encrypt's Trademark policy [1] strongly suggests that 'Let's Encrypt' is a trademark (word mark?) that they have registered, and yet according to the most recent letter sent by the USPTO [2] "The Office records have been searched and there are no similar registered or pending marks that would bar registration [...]" [1] https://letsencrypt.org/trademarks/ [2] http://tsdr.uspto.gov/document…
I don't see anything in their trademark policy that implies they have registered any of their marks yet. In fact, all the marks in the "included, but not limited to" list use ™ instead of ®, the later which can only be used with registered trademarks. Searching the USPTO database[1] for "let's encrypt" only reveals Comodo's 1B registrations. All that being said, under US law you still have trademark rights even befor…
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#119Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.
I use LetsEncrypt in most cases (and have companies I work with donate a portion of what they used to spend) and then DigiCert for EV SAN.
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#120There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.
I see "Start Encrypt" as a capitalist answer to a competing product with (very) cheesy marketing, while what Comodo tries to do is purely malicious. IMHO we can't put them in the same basket.
Also with very cheesy and bad grammar.