[x] First they ignore you,
[x] then they laugh at you,
[x] then they fight you,
[ ] then you win.
- Mahatma GandhiDefending Our Brand
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#32Didn't LE announce they were going to do a name change a few months ago?
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#33Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.
I agree. I have an existing cert from Comodo for my personal site, as they were cheap and easy to get when I was looking for one. I will look for another provider when it's time to renew.
Why are you looking for another provider? Just use Lets Encrypt ;-)
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#34It is very disheartening that Comodo, a seller of SSL certs, is attempting to steal some of the attention of Let's Encrypt has put into making a more secure internet. Instead of trying to weasel their way in front of Let's Encrypt a better strategy, in my personal opinion, would be to offer services on top of SSL. (Installing and managing SSL certs is still something a lay person cannot do.)
They already do. LetsEncrypt does not offer EV SSL certs for example.
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#35You can only imagine it's being done for malicious reasons. It doesn't seem like there is any good reason for Comodo to do this, other than try protect revenue loss.
It looks like they have nothing left to lose. Acting in bad faith so openly lowers them to the levels of patent-trolls. I can't think of any company which respects its public image doing any new business with them after this news.
> Acting in bad faith so openly lowers them to the levels of patent-trolls.
You seem to imply there was a time in recent memory where comodo itself was at a level above patent trolls. At a high level, patent trolling is associated with rent collection behaviour and using coercion to profit. I see this as comodo's core business, so I guess I am just quibbling about timeframe.
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#36will switch all my comodo certs once they expire.
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#37I've been using LE for all the certs. Free, easy, secure. Hooray!
Cheers to LE for standing tall.
Please donate to LE, EFF.
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#38There are also others trying to cash in on this. StartSSL recently started a "Start Encrypt" product which is based on similar ideas.
I see "Start Encrypt" as a capitalist answer to a competing product with (very) cheesy marketing, while what Comodo tries to do is purely malicious. IMHO we can't put them in the same basket.
It sounds similar enough to me "Let's Encrypt" that it could confuse people. The trademark system is supposed to prevent confusion, which seems to me like what "Start Encrypt" could do. Thus, that also seems to me like a trademark problem.
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#39Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.
Yeah, the only reason to use them was that they were cheap and now AlphaSSL's resellers are cheaper anyways, $40 wildcards are hard to argue with. Heck, I paid $100 for 3 years on renewal.
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#40The bullshit the CAs pull never ceases to amaze me.
Comodo in particular has a long history of shady bullshit. Tarring all CAs with that brush strikes me as unduly harsh.
See also "Chromodo", the Chrome fork by Comodo that introduces such incredible security features as turning off the same-origin policy, completely breaking the Internet security model.